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JeepGeneral
02-27-2011, 06:17 PM
2011 JK 2 door w/ a hardtop, 6 speed trans and the power group OR a 2011 Ram 1500 Quad Cab SLT Lone Star. Both would be black.

Payment is the same on both. Keep in mind I already have a 2006 Ram 2500 that I'm "leasing" to my business. Also have an offroad only TJ on 36s.

Neither will be used offroad, only to drive to work and tow my stand up jetski or dirtbike on a small trailer.

Which would you pick and why?

ridgerunner97
02-27-2011, 06:23 PM
Tough Call Tom, but the Ram will be more comfortable than the Jeep. However that JK will more than likely do better on fuel and be easier to run around town in. I'd get the Ram, but that is just me, the Lone Star is a really nice package.

JeepGeneral
02-27-2011, 06:23 PM
http://www.cartrucktrader.com/photos/489/501858489_1_B.jpg

OR

https://content.homenetiol.com/756/32116/640x480/8037e336feb145d4acb24f232254f1bd.jpg

JeepGeneral
02-27-2011, 06:24 PM
I wasn't even considering the Wrangler before I saw someone running doorless this afternoon...makes me miss a streetable Jeep. To make things worse, I have to decide before tomorrow night!

fmlyof4whlrs
02-27-2011, 06:48 PM
You have a truck....I would take the Jeep. The Jk's ride is very comfortable especially if you get some bells and whistles haha. I love the open top, doors off driving. But then I am baised haha.

88wd21
02-27-2011, 06:49 PM
I'd go Jeep personally... But I have enough people who can throw me the keys if I need a pickup for anything

Dragonslayer
02-27-2011, 06:54 PM
2500 diesel. nuf said

Dragonslayer
02-27-2011, 07:00 PM
Wait, WAT?????? I just remembered a conversation wit da boss the other day, diesel is supposed to be going up to around $5.00 a gallon this summer. AHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!:102:

pittim
02-27-2011, 07:23 PM
Are you a member of Tread Lightly?

If not, sign up...you can get 1% below factory invoice on Jeep/Dodge/Chrysler vehicles...

http://www.treadlightly.org/page.php/chrysler_discount



Oh, and I'd go Ram.

Powerguy37
02-27-2011, 07:32 PM
Are you a member of Tread Lightly?

If not, sign up...you can get 1% below factory invoice on Jeep/Dodge/Chrysler vehicles...

http://www.treadlightly.org/page.php/chrysler_discount



Oh, and I'd go Ram.

Well the fact that his families business is Hillview Jeep, I think he will get a little better discount... :003:

97V10MN
02-27-2011, 07:46 PM
Id shoot for the truck that way you can haul if your 3/4 ton was in the shop, plus they are so comfortable for trips.

pittim
02-27-2011, 08:30 PM
Well the fact that his families business is Hillview Jeep, I think he will get a little better discount... :003:

Ah, didn't know who he was, and now that you mention it, I remember him pulling his TJ in an enclosed trailer with the 2500 on the superbowl run.

Tom, can you use your 2500 whenever you need to or does the business get first dibs? If business gets first dibs, I'd go with the Ram. If you get first dibs, I'd go JK.

JeepGeneral
02-27-2011, 09:17 PM
I'm leaning towards the Ram, it stickers for $40k and leases for $300 a month. A $27k JK leases for $390.

JeepGeneral
02-27-2011, 09:21 PM
I can use the 2500 anytime, I'm leaving it titled in my name and leasing it to the business to cover the new car payment. We put 25000 miles on it in the past 8 months, hopefully using it only as a work truck will prolong its life. Plus, the new Rams ride like a dream compared to my 2006.

2002wranglerX
02-27-2011, 09:22 PM
I'm leaning towards the Ram, it stickers for $40k and leases for $300 a month. A $27k JK leases for $390.

wait, so you're LEASING? i vote for something actually fun to drive then since you have a tow rig and off road only jeep... maybe not a wrangler, but definitely someting fun...

i missed having a street legal jeep so bad, and then my wife bought one! it's tough not having something like that for nice summer days.

just fyi, the new titan off road editions (fx4?) have like 8 grand in rebates! just something to look into

JeepGeneral
02-28-2011, 12:18 AM
Must be a C/J/D product, their lineup of "fun" cars suck

2002wranglerX
02-28-2011, 12:22 AM
Must be a C/J/D product, their lineup of "fun" cars suck

Challenger? Lol... I dunno... I dd a truck but if I could I'd have a jk to drive around too. In a month or two when wifey gets too preggo to get into her jk I will get hers hehe...


But the thought of leasing a jk and leaving it stock... I don't think I could do it.

village_idiot
02-28-2011, 12:56 AM
fiat 500 FTW

fmlyof4whlrs
02-28-2011, 06:54 AM
Even if you lease the JK when the lease is over you if opt to buy it you would have more paid on it right? Either one would be cool to drive around but the girls love convertibles so I say jeep.

highlandercj-7
02-28-2011, 07:13 AM
The Ram hands down! You already have a TJ. I just rented a new Ram like that. Absolutely loved that truck. Get the Cummins if you can afford it, if not the Hemi. I had the 4.7 it runs good but the power doesn't come on strong till 4000 RPMs. The ride on the half ton is incrediable it's a smooth as a caddy. I just rented a 4dr JK too. It rode and handled like a brick, it was severly underpowered.

muddeprived
02-28-2011, 07:13 AM
Jeep cuz it's topless. We love topless wom.....err...jeeps.

JeepGeneral
02-28-2011, 08:37 AM
Going in now we shall see what I come home with....

muddeprived
02-28-2011, 08:56 AM
I bet he'll come home with one of these:

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv294/Chriseatsmud/toyota-prius-red-b02.jpg

dan58
02-28-2011, 10:16 AM
Hemi Ram.

2002wranglerX
02-28-2011, 10:34 AM
Hemi Ram.

That's what I'm betting he drives home

OverkillZJ
02-28-2011, 10:43 AM
Personally I'd definitely go for the RAM.

I'll have my new DD in the next month or so. It'll be very different from the norm - and no, I don't think it'll be the Elantra like I said. Something that's a little more fun.

2002wranglerX
02-28-2011, 10:45 AM
Personally I'd definitely go for the RAM.

I'll have my new DD in the next month or so. It'll be very different from the norm - and no, I don't think it'll be the Elantra like I said. Something that's a little more fun.

Genesis?

OverkillZJ
02-28-2011, 10:48 AM
Close, fell in love with the Sonata 2.0T. 283HP in a vehicle that gets almost 35MPG, and is that nice and quiet inside... just brewing over the idea and payment now.

JeepGeneral
02-28-2011, 01:46 PM
The new Grand Cherokees are pretty sexy for a DD as well, so I threw that into the equation this morning as well.

dan58
02-28-2011, 02:13 PM
We had an '11 Laredo Grand for a rental during the Hammers. I can say I really like that thing. It rode extremely well on the highway and got nice mileage with the new V6. That said, the one thing I HATED about it was the DBW.

ridgerunner97
02-28-2011, 02:15 PM
The new Grand Cherokees are pretty sexy for a DD as well, so I threw that into the equation this morning as well.

So what the hell did you come home with? The grands are really nice for a DD my aunt just got one its pretty awesome. Me and my dad are trying to talk my mom into one for her :)

mangotango
02-28-2011, 02:23 PM
Hemi Ram.

Did anyone else see Extreme 4x4 this weekend? They put a supercharger in a v6 JK and then compared it to the hemi upgrade. They got to within 10 percent of the hemi in hp and torque and it cost less than half the price of getting the v8/hemi upgrade. I thought that was interesting.

Oh, of course that was a JK hemi. I'm not dissing the Ram here by any means.

muddeprived
02-28-2011, 02:25 PM
We had an '11 Laredo Grand for a rental during the Hammers. I can say I really like that thing. It rode extremely well on the highway and got nice mileage with the new V6. That said, the one thing I HATED about it was the DBW.

DBW? What's that?

The grand won 4wheeler of the year this year. Not that it was much of a challenge with just two other competitors. It did break the t-case lol.

muddeprived
02-28-2011, 02:25 PM
Did anyone else see Extreme 4x4 this weekend? They put a supercharger in a v6 JK and then compared it to the hemi upgrade. They got to within 10 percent of the hemi in hp and torque and it cost less than half the price of getting the v8/hemi upgrade. I thought that was interesting.

Oh, of course that was a JK hemi. I'm not dissing the Ram here by any means.

Everytime I watch Extreme, it's a re-run. Everytime I don't watch it, it's a new episode. What the.......

mangotango
02-28-2011, 02:37 PM
^^I hardly ever watch it so they're all new to me.

mangotango
02-28-2011, 02:41 PM
Also, the rig they put it in had custom axles, exhaust and other drive train elements. Now, they claim the work they did actually bled MORE hp out of the engine than stock would -- plus they were running it on 37s -- so their take was that a supercharger on a largely stock mod would be very close to the hemi in performance.

It's a TV show, plugging the companies that make the stuff they use so take it for what it's worth.

dan58
02-28-2011, 03:04 PM
DBW? What's that?

The grand won 4wheeler of the year this year. Not that it was much of a challenge with just two other competitors. It did break the t-case lol.

Drive by Wire. There is no throttle cable.

The hemi they used in that JK was hardly the same one in a 2011 Ram. It was likely a 330hp(ish) one from a wrecked truck (I didn't catch the first part of where it was sourced). The 2009+ has a 390+hp Hemi with MDS. They also paid $20K (wtf) to a shop like Burnsville for that swap. A friend down here did the same swap in his, even paying a shop to do it. He had under $10K in the swap.

And frankly, a chassis dyno doesn't tell you squat about the engine. It's certainly not apples to apples because they had such different drivetrains. The ONLY way to compare those two is to put each engine on an engine dyno. Let us also not forget that the S/C probably requires premium gas.

ExplorHer
02-28-2011, 04:17 PM
I'm voting for the JK as the DD. You've got a truck available if you need it.

And for the SCV6 vs Hemi JK, they also let the supercharger guys play with the tune on the SCV6, but the Hemi was left on a stock tune.

RalphDogg
02-28-2011, 05:40 PM
Jeep hands down. why would you lease a truck for a truck?

2002wranglerX
02-28-2011, 06:41 PM
Drive by Wire. There is no throttle cable.

The hemi they used in that JK was hardly the same one in a 2011 Ram. It was likely a 330hp(ish) one from a wrecked truck (I didn't catch the first part of where it was sourced). The 2009+ has a 390+hp Hemi with MDS. They also paid $20K (wtf) to a shop like Burnsville for that swap. A friend down here did the same swap in his, even paying a shop to do it. He had under $10K in the swap.

And frankly, a chassis dyno doesn't tell you squat about the engine. It's certainly not apples to apples because they had such different drivetrains. The ONLY way to compare those two is to put each engine on an engine dyno. Let us also not forget that the S/C probably requires premium gas.


i actually agree with you here. plus a hemi won't put you into limp mode like the superchargers do. there's lots of guys that when they go WOT get the red lightning bolt on the dash and the jeep goes into limp mode.

the hemi the power is there ALL the time. Also, 20k is standard rate on a hemi swap. seriously. JUST the conversion kit from AEV is 5200 bucks. and that doesn't include the motor or transmission/tcase.

SirFuego
02-28-2011, 07:49 PM
Get the bling Grand Cherokee SRT -- it's a better vehicle than the Buggatti Veyeron :082:

I'd say the Ram 1500, but I think the Jeep would be more fun. Plus, unless they changed something since the first year of the redesign, the cupholders suck (they can't hold 32 oz gatorades anymore!) in the new Ram and they don't offer the fold flat rear platform.

JeepGeneral
02-28-2011, 11:15 PM
Ended up with the Ram, but it wasn't an easy decision. The whole purpose of getting another vehicle was to keep miles off the 2500, I have put 25k miles on it over the past 10 months using it for work and as a daily driver. At the rate I was going, it would be junk in another 2-3 years. I haul and tow often, so I figured buying anything but a truck would force me continue to rack up miles on the 2500. Hopefully I can keep the mileage down and get another 10 years out of it as a shop truck.

I spent some time driving the Wrangler and the Grand Cherokee this morning and really liked them both. I can say C/J/D has done an awesome job with their new models (especially the interiors) and if the deal on the Grand was as good as the Ram, I would have brought it home instead. Its crazy how much more comfortable they are compared to my 2000 TJ and the 2004 Grand I had in the past.

The only downfall of the truck is how terrible the gas mileage will be. I figure if gas goes to $5 a gallon, motorcycles will be flying out the door and gas money won't be an issue!

JeepGeneral
02-28-2011, 11:16 PM
Plus, unless they changed something since the first year of the redesign, the cupholders suck (they can't hold 32 oz gatorades anymore!) in the new Ram and they don't offer the fold flat rear platform.

You're right, the cupholders aren't nearly as big as my 2006, but there are two down in the driver's door panel. Mine does have the fold-flat floor, my 2006 did not.

highlandercj-7
03-01-2011, 09:57 AM
I think you made the right choice (between the options given). My brother in law just bought the same truck. The new Hemi power is awesome. He said he is pulling 16 MPG. I'd imagine it should get better once they break in.