Occupy protesters

[DixieJeeper]

I like how the neo-communist or should I say the socialists that what "change" and to "redistribute wealth" call themselves the 99% of Americans that are hard working middle to lower income citizens protesting against the "1 %" of the weatlhy.

I don't agree with the communist beliefs- but I have to embrace their freedom of speech and assembly in our great nation. They have the right to protest becasue to celebrate the freedom of speech you have to at least acknowledge that we live in a free society even if it means a person's right to speak something you don't agree with.

However, I would like to point out some evidence of their duchebaggery as of late... I am all for peaceful assembly and the right to publicly assemble to address grivences but when you take these things into account I am wondering what they are really up to:

1) ACRON has been reorganized into NYCC (NY Communities for Change) and is paying people to protest and collect monies under false pretenses and floating it to the Wall Street Protesters.

2) The Wall Street protestors camp is occupied by largely homeless at night most of the protesters are going home at night. So it really isn't occupy wallstreet, it is occupy wallstreet until I have to go home to my corporate managed condo or townhome, boot up my big coprorate Ipad, and warm my apartment with fossil fuels... then go back out to wall street and protest against the same companies that i use their products.

3) I am not sure if there are people still downtown- but last time I ventured down there when they were there they were giving the cops and the people walking into PNC a hard time. Aren't those cops, and workers for PNC part of the "99%"? Just working stiffs trying to make ends meet?

4) I don't get what they are protesting against. Corporate greed? Ok fraudulent greed isn't sucessful capatalism- but you are protesting against an abstract idea. Not protesting lets say to get someone freed from jail. What do you hope to accomplish? If you want to motivate people form a structure and leadership you need a voice.. no they don't becasue they are all just protesting and bitching for no good reason- they are weak hippies mucnhing on garnola and talking about their berconstocks. Thats also why some of them wear masks or bandannas over their faces they are weak and scared teenagers that never grew up or worked for antyhing they just want a hand OUT... if your going to protest why are you afraid of showing your face?

5) There was a story this moring that cafe in NYC had to lay off 21 of his 60+ employees becasue his cafe is across from the protest. His business is off 30% and won't make it until the end of the year.... now is he and his workers the 99% or the 1%.

Duchbagerry... get a job, organzie, get a voice, and propose leigtimate change if you want- like law reforms- we all hear you.. we have heard you for over a month... buy a clue- your not going to change anythign by shitting on cop cars, getting arrested, or camping out pissing on the side walk. This isn't the 1960s but your sure acting like a bunch of hippies.

This country was built on hard work, dedication, and freedoms. It is call the land of OPPOUTUNITY not the land of the HAND OUT. It means if you work hard and dedicate yourself to a cause anything is possible.. and you might just making it. It isn't founded on the priniciple that everyone gets the same station in life- that communisim and how did that work out for the soviets?

[OverkillZJ]

It makes me laugh, too. One of their original complaints had merrit: there IS too much control between corporations and goverment. Folks on the FDA who have large investments in the beef market - you bet your ass beef will come out high on the food pyramid.

But that's where it falls apart: they are barking up the wrong tree. The problem is the corrupt politicians. And the movent drifted away from the corp/gov connection after about 30 seconds, and is now a clusterfawk of lunatics.

[MemorEsto]

I don't know how true this chart is, but it made me laugh.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/316295_213275165409624_133109130092895_504702_1541 96951_n.jpg


Also, a good quote from Napoleon "Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake."

[DixieJeeper]

I don't know how true this chart is, but it made me laugh.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/316295_213275165409624_133109130092895_504702_1541 96951_n.jpg


Also, a good quote from Napoleon "Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake."


Freaking priceless.. I knew I liked you guys/gals for a good reason!

Anyone else think these idiots are the same ones that think making kids not keeping score at little league games is a good idea to "shelter them from the dissapointment of losing?"

They likley also whined when the got pegged in dodge ball in school and instead of toughing up they made it their mission to get dodge ball out of school when they were adults.

Wasn't it Sean Conery in "The Rock" that said something to the effect that "loosers are always whinning about their best- winners get to go home and sleep wth the prom queen."

That is sort of what we have here- they are whinners- like you said barking up the wrong tree and not doing anything other than sitting in a park whinning.


I agree with ya.. I thik there WAS some merit to their protests. Certainly the housing and subprime markets happened due to some big duchebaggery and greedy bastards that thought they could ride the bubble. Only to make one big shit sandwhich and now we all have to take a big bite.

There needs to be some serious reform in a number arenas private and govt. to fix some of the messes we are in.

Did you see the report on Fox yesterday about that dbag city manager in Bell, CA that got suspended for being brought up on corportion charges and is awaiting trial and is suing for 4 years of back pay seeing as he isn't convicted (yet). Thats a winner right there.

[SirFuego]

Also, a good quote from Napoleon "Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake."
First thing that popped in my head when I read the title of this thread.

The big thing is that there isn't any formal organization to this entire "movement", if you will. As a result, they are being ignored because, well, there is nothing really for people to listen to. IMO, it's just a way for people to complain about the way things are run without actually trying to do anything productive. If they were doing something productive, we would be at least hearing specific names of people trying to do something -- such as running for office...

Whether they like it or not, the only way any change is going to happen is going to be by changing it from within. Anything else is just a waste of time. There is no way any group has the balls to actually try to "overthrow" anything anymore.

[SirFuego]

I agree with ya.. I thik there WAS some merit to their protests. Certainly the housing and subprime markets happened due to some big duchebaggery and greedy bastards that thought they could ride the bubble. Only to make one big shit sandwhich and now we all have to take a big bite.

There is only merit in their argument if they realize that the common folk were part of the problem, too. That's the fundamental problem, no one is taking responsibility in their actions -- they are just blaming the problem on someone else. Banks were trying to take advantage of their customers and it bit them in the ass. Customers were woo'd into a "great" deal without doing the proper research.

Corporate greed is nothing new. Customer stupidity is nothing new. Economic downturn is nothing new.

What is new is that it seems that when the shit hits the fan, more and more people are expecting other people to bail them out than deal with the consequences or build a ladder to get out of the hole. The major problem with this is that I think people are more likely to repeat their own mistakes because they have a comfort knowing that they will get help with the shit hits the fan again.

The customers that got "screwed" by the banks need to figure out on their own what to do to get out of the hole. The banks need to realize that excessive greed comes back to bite you in the ass. Only then will we get out of this mess.

Humans are inherently bad at long-term planning. The best evidence of this is that is no major society I'm aware of that has lasted for more than 400 years without a significant change in the way gov't was run.

[MemorEsto]

Exactly,

Most of us probably make the same amount as these people protesting, but were smart enough to realize that we couldn't afford a $300,000 dollar house, even though the bank pre-approved you for it.

I just hate the "Blame everyone else but yourself" idea's that have been pushed onto everyone, now it's becoming a generational habit. Like Welfare.

[Muzikman]

I'll be honest, some have a valid gripe, however, there is no way that sleeping in a park is going to solve anything. I have read many news articles on these "protests" and I'll be honest, I can't figure out what the hell they are protesting? What do they want to change? How do they want to change it?

If they are protesting the fact that the government bailed out big financial institutions and corporations with tax payers money and then these same companies turn around and pay their execs multi-million dollar bonuses, then yes, I see their point. However, if they are just for taxing the richest 1% because these people are rich (even the ones that got that way through hard work and brains), then they are quite misguided.

[MemorEsto]

I'll be honest, I can't figure out what the hell they are protesting? What do they want to change? How do they want to change it?

Maybe this video will help you out.... HA!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW56Z-0xwIQ

[Muzikman]

DUDE! That's it! I totally agree!


















Ummm.....what the hell did she say?

[Powerguy37]

Maybe this video will help you out.... HA!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW56Z-0xwIQ

I want some of what she's on... I have no idea what she said and I now feel dumber for watching it.

[DixieJeeper]

LMFAO holy crap.. did she say fear factor?
I was waiting for the Waynes Brothers to jump out and say "homey don't play that"

how many times did she say homeland security? I counted at least 4... I lost track of the "um" count.... what useless babble a prime example of the idiots that are protesting just to protest their own inner angst for being losers. "I got my poliitcal science and underwater basket weaving degree from UGA and I work at Taco Bell- I am gonna protest... "

I agree though- it is all about the haves and have nots- they have not a clue... and we do.

[joshs1ofakindxj]

latf99p.com

[OverkillZJ]

Just on th efirst one - does someone want tell tell him that 250k a year is NOT 1% - 384k is. I don't know where some of the strange and random numbers are coming from, but stats are stats, and according to the IRS's data 384k is 1%. And mind you, that doesn't change the argument, he's still a dumbass.

EDIT: beyond my rant at the first dumbasses picture, this guys comments are great, haha!

[joshs1ofakindxj]

You do have to feel a little sad for them though.

They've been lied to all their lives pretty much. They were fed the American Dream: go to college on loans, you'll graduate with a good job and make tons of many to pay those loans and blah blah sex money good looks and escalades. Well they woke up to the American Nightmare. No jobs for finger painting and African history majors. I'm shocked. Thank goodness I had the foresight to get an engineering degree and bust my ass for internships that landed me a full time job.

It's good thing these libtards don't have the stomach, ability, or money to get a firearm and use it or they actually might have a revolution.

Until then it is just a bunch of dirty hipsters complaining to a bunch of people who aren't listening to them about how those very same people aren't listening to them.

[ezman]

there are some very valid points made here, and i agree with them. so i thought i'd just add some more knowledge and opinion

****ing hippies!

that is all

[OverkillZJ]

You do have to feel a little sad for them though.

They've been lied to all their lives pretty much. They were fed the American Dream: go to college on loans, you'll graduate with a good job and make tons of many to pay those loans and blah blah sex money good looks and escalades. Well they woke up to the American Nightmare. No jobs for finger painting and African history majors. I'm shocked. Thank goodness I had the foresight to get an engineering degree and bust my ass for internships that landed me a full time job.

It's good thing these libtards don't have the stomach, ability, or money to get a firearm and use it or they actually might have a revolution.

Until then it is just a bunch of dirty hipsters complaining to a bunch of people who aren't listening to them about how those very same people aren't listening to them.

There are degrees you can do on loans, graduate, and make a very good living - but you still need to WORK after graduating, and it's not going to be a "sociology" degree.

In the past, employers wanted to see you have a degree because it often meant you "learned how to learned" and showed you paid your dues. But times have changed, mostly because expectations in college have changed - someone comes out now feeling entitled. Not someone I would want to hire.

[DixieJeeper]

The libtards stormed the port of oakland yesterday shutting it down. Did they remove them? nope.. just bowed to their socialist protest costing 100,000's or more in lost profit.. then they got violent and broken windows, fired fireworks at the cops, spray painted buildings, and they only fired a FEW rounds of CS into the crowd. I love how the left wing media is reporting the protests as peaceful and only a few hooligans.. yea whatever. I think the time has come to rein in some semblance of order- time to break out the cases of CS and rubber bullets- no permit here take some CS... oh you want to block a roadway or graffiti buildings and crap on a cop car get CS and rubber bullets.

If we don't take a stand for law and order- pretty soon every town is going to have the roaming bands of neo-communist socialist angst filled hippies roaming the streets like a horde of zombies from the walking dead. Time to get mid-evil on their asses.

[MemorEsto]

The liberal media will turn it around and make it look like these people are martyr's for their cause, and that the hard working police officers were unjust and cruel using unnecessary force.

[DixieJeeper]

Yea good point.. damn hippies and libtards.

Can we all pool our money and buy and island for conservatives (of all parties) that have common sense- and leave all the stupids here. We could make sure it has alot of rock and trailheads on the island too... oh and a good tiki bar and beach... oh a biki hotties would be nice too.. I don't want a sausage party.

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/starlings-island.htm

Not alot of rock.. but we could build obsticales :)

[SirFuego]

I mentioned this before, but it bears repeating.

I am a HUGE proponent of getting a college education. But I am NOT a proponent of expecting a high school graduate (especially one that struggled in HS) to immediately go to college for the sake of going to college. Some people need a year or two scraping by before they realize they need to go to college. Others would be better served going to a trade school or becoming an apprentice. Others just aren't cut out for college. Over the years, the benefit of a college education has proven itself time and time again -- to the point where it's expected and a lot of fields are being saturated with qualified workers, but no one wants to "underemploy" themselves. In generations prior to ours, people typically went to college because they wanted to make a difference or make more money. Now more and more people are going to college because they were told to.

I'd probably make a horrible high school guidance counselor by today's standards.

I'm not even 30 yet and I talk like I'm a grumpy old 75 year old.

[MemorEsto]

[QUOTE=SirFuego;259414
I'm not even 30 yet and I talk like I'm a grumpy old 75 year old.[/QUOTE]

My wife tells me this everyday.

She says I will be like Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino drinking PBR and Smoking Pall Malls

[DixieJeeper]

There is nothing wrong with being wise beyond your years Sir Fuego and memoresto. I tend to feel the same way and my wife is as well. At some point in time people have lost the concept that this is the land of oppourtunity not the land of the hand out.

I didn't have alot of direction in my life coming out of HS- so I feel back on what I did through school which was the automotive trade. I went through a program with GM that was trade school and college so I came out with an A.S. degree. I listened to a few guys in the shop and went back and got my B.S. degree and I am thankful for it. It opened alot of doors for me. However, I am a firm believer that not everyone NEEDS to go to college.

If they have a direction in which they want to persue and that career path requires a undergrad go for it. Trade school, AS programs, military, or public service are alway fields that would benifit from those not with 4 year degrees and there is no shame in not having a 4 year degree. Likewise, I don't think that becuase you have a degree from a 4 year liberal arts college in under water political debate of the socialist world that you are necessarily better qualified than somone with a 2 year degree and some experence or even someone with lots of experence and proven track record.

[MemorEsto]

I know this was posted on here before, but I couldn't find the thread.

Turbo, I thought you would like this if you haven't seen it before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NwEFVUb-u0

[joshs1ofakindxj]

America is the land of equal opportunity.

Not the land of equal outcome.

I do have to say though, I'm an entropy fan (George Carlin reference).

[DixieJeeper]

LOVED that Mike Rowe video. We need more Mike Rowe's and Mike Holmes in all the skilled trades. Still working in a skilled trade I am amazed at the shortfalls of the talent we have and the quality of the new "recruits" there is less emphasis on quality and more about "me" than anything else.

I remember something my mom once said is that the broader "service" industry will always be needed- not everyone can be in an office. That if you work hard and are deteremined good things will happen.

Maybe somone needs to tell the nunnicks out there protesting that

[DixieJeeper]

Wow just sandbagging this AM- not quite up to reviewing and editting some grad. work the wifey did last night...

Here is a good looking into the dbaggery in liberty plaza... They sure do make a convincing argument... not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=XOkMizZjhBI