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DixieJeeper
03-08-2012, 01:26 AM
I was looking at picking up a plinkster, or 597 VR Remington, or a tactical Mosberg .22.

I was on cabelas website and found that for cheaper than all of the above- I could buy a Hi-point Carbine in either the .45 ACP (about $70 more than the above options), .40 SW (same price as above options) or 9mm (for $100 cheaper).

The gun is USA built, had 4.5 out of 5 star reviews on Cabelas out of 59 reviews.

the Mosberg .22 seems pretty nice but repeatively is knocked for cheaper construction I know it is a rimfire but if I am going to spend over $200 I could get a .40 cal and actually have some ass to it too.

Thoughts on a carbine? and Hi-point.

This would round out my collection for now- I have a .40 cal glock, and a 870 express 12 ga.

jlovbasz3
03-08-2012, 01:36 AM
I had a Hi-point 9mm carbine it wasn't bad for the money. I put close to a thousand rounds threw it with no real problems. Wasn't the most accurate gun but was fun to shoot.

DixieJeeper
03-08-2012, 01:38 AM
Thanks- seems thats pretty common for the 9mm reviews I have read, the .40 and .45 ACP crowd have had a bit more positive reviews- but many people have said its really good gun.

DixieJeeper
03-08-2012, 11:22 PM
Friend of mine suggested a SW MP 15 700.... a bit pricey and I would think a bit better level gun but out of my range.

chain
03-09-2012, 10:06 PM
I really can't stand the thought of a Hi-Point because they are just so damn ugly to me and also feel big and clunky. I will say though when it come to people that have actually shot them I have heard good things and have also heard you can't beat their customer service.

Azzy
03-10-2012, 12:04 AM
buy a used and beat one, send it back to the factory. Lifetime warranty, no questions asked, as long as they can read the serial. Newer ones look a LOT better than the old fugly sticks.

Sycotik Skier
03-10-2012, 10:18 AM
you had mentioned the remington 597 also. I got one for christmas and absolutely love it. The fit and finish is exceptionally good for a 22. Keep in mi9nd too that .22 ammo is twenty bucks for 525 where as 40 and 45 is substantially more. The main reason i wanted the .22 is for plinking and I can do it pretty much guilt free since ammo is so cheap.

HoodRN
03-10-2012, 10:49 AM
My plinkers are all .22s. Ruger 10/22, GSG5, and a Ruger 22/45. Centerfire ammo is expensive, rimfire is much cheaper. Cheap = more shooting :)

ezman
03-10-2012, 01:51 PM
i shot my buddy's hi point 9mm and it was fun to shoot. it's a nice weapon that you can even take to indoor ranges and shoot because it's only a 9mm

DixieJeeper
03-11-2012, 12:56 AM
http://www.cabelas.com/semiautomatic-point-9mm-carbine-1.shtml

Here is the 9mm version sure the .40 cal is pretty close.. I don't think it is ugly...:)

I know the .22 will be dirt cheap to shoot in the mosburg..
and the 9mm carbine would be an econmical comprimise for a carbine calibers cheaper than the .40 and .45 acp yet with the 9mm still retain more stoppng than using a .22 in a defense sceanrio.

JeepSteeler
03-12-2012, 10:21 AM
Would this be used in a defense scenario though? Or just for soda can masscres? 9mm, if bought in bulk, isn't too bad pricewise but still .22 is just soooo dang cheap. Plus, with a 25 shot mag like on my 15-22.....maybe your first 10 shots don't stop somebody, you still have 15 more!

Either way, another gun is a Win-Win in my book.

joshs1ofakindxj
03-12-2012, 11:41 AM
In my humble opinion, after owning and using many different 22's, the Ruger 10/22 rifle is the best 22 semi rifle out there. Quality, reliability, and customizability are up there. Mine has tricked out internals, a pistol grip side folding stock, and it's very accurate with Federal bulk ammunition, which it eats reliably. I used that aummuntion to get my Rifleman patch at Appleseed a few years ago. 25 round magazines are great too. The 25 round magazine Ruger released recently is a quality piece.

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs145.snc1/5373_256223060342_755350342_8378745_8081827_n.jpg

I have shot a hi-point 9mm, and it was the older style, which was fugly and goofy, but it worked.

Meh, buy both.

joshs1ofakindxj
03-12-2012, 11:42 AM
Actually, buy 2...

http://vpcblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/10-22gatling.jpg

DixieJeeper
03-12-2012, 02:18 PM
Would this be used in a defense scenario though? Or just for soda can masscres? 9mm, if bought in bulk, isn't too bad pricewise but still .22 is just soooo dang cheap. Plus, with a 25 shot mag like on my 15-22.....maybe your first 10 shots don't stop somebody, you still have 15 more!

Either way, another gun is a Win-Win in my book.

Defensive scneario... for the upcoming, social collapse, economic collpase, solar flares, zombies, or 4 more years of obama

this is my long term plan for weaponary;


1) .40 cal glock- got it, need to upgrad to trintium night sights

2) 12 ga 870 express- check

3) Want to get a carbine perferably in .40 cal to keep the ammo common and have the abilty to stock pile for medium to long term, provid close quaters to med range self defense

4) Want to get a glock 27 .40 cal for a better concealed carry peice. .40 only becasue all of my current mags will interchange

5) long range rifle

6) throwing tomahawks- you laugh but they are a great defensive and offensive weapon and tool.

7) 9 mm hand gun and .22 hand guns and rifles for deversification

cityslicker
03-12-2012, 03:58 PM
Hi point is garbage.

Azzy
03-12-2012, 04:47 PM
^ how?

They are made for a purpose. That is explicitly to provide a working firearm at a price point, because not everyone can afford to purchase a $500 handgun. And as ugly as they may be, they run like a well maintained 4.0, just hard to stop.

(and the hipoint doesnt have a CPS to crap out!)

Another fun plinker and possible squirrel gun is a Henry lever action 22. Its my go to pest control rifle, and the one that ends up being used the most by new shooters at the range. They just cant seem to have enough of it. Best part is, you can shoot 22 shorts from it, and even load them with 22lr, which makes for a nice reminder that you just shot the last shot. Pop pop pop pop pft. :D

joshs1ofakindxj
03-12-2012, 06:57 PM
My only complaint about my Henry lever action 22 is that is heavy. Very barrel heavy. It tires me out quicker than expected.

I like your idea of standardizing on 40 caliber. For a "long range" rifle, you can VERY cheaply get a Mosin and a spam can of cheap surplus ammo, and be able to hit a man size target at 300 yards. Mine hits 18" plates at 300 yards without much trouble with surplus ammo, and it is right out of the cosmoline as far as accuracy modifications go.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/luvherinmyjeep32/IMG_1671.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/luvherinmyjeep32/IMG_1693.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/luvherinmyjeep32/IMG_1670.jpg

jlovbasz3
03-12-2012, 07:26 PM
X2 on the Mosin. Straight out of the box (after cleaning) I was able to hit a 10''x10'' steel plate at 200 yards. You can get them at Dunhams on sale for $89.99 and ammo online for about $160 for 880 rounds.

http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/jlovasz3/IMAG0053.jpg

Azzy
03-12-2012, 09:15 PM
I have 2 of those stocks waiting to either be used or sell... not sure on it yet. How did you like your scope mount kit? easy enough to take care of?

(sorry for the thread hijack)

MN is a great bolt rifle, and the 7.62x54 is in the same ballistic range as a 30.06. Good for deer if you wish with soft point ammo, especially after a trigger job.

joshs1ofakindxj
03-12-2012, 10:13 PM
I don't like my monte carlo stock. It's due for its third round of heavy fitting and filing. Not much quality there.

I tried all different scope configurations and eventually settled on my own home brew of bolting a taller rail to the top of my "hex" receiver and cutting and welding the bolt myself. I should of just done the ATI kit in the first place but I tried to go cheap with a long eye relief and rear sight mount. It didn't last. Then I removed the rear sight completely and mounted some nice rings on the dove tail left on the barrel and no good. Finally ended where it is now.

JeepSteeler
03-13-2012, 09:55 AM
Agreed on the ammo stocking idea, at least in my opinion I'm trying to build my collection around a few calibers instead of having to buy 20 different kinds of ammo and stockpile it. I've already effed up my own logic on this one, but I'm trying to re-consolidate.

I want the twin 10/22 kit. Bad. For no reason other than the badassery looks factor.

I certainly won't laugh at a tomahawk. Not when it is hurling towards my face. BONUS: you can scalp with em.

.22 is nice, let's say if the zombie apocolypse/social collapse happens or whatever, then you have a cheap means of picking off small animals for lunch and not blowing a .40 cal hole in the side of a squirrel.

DixieJeeper
03-13-2012, 02:52 PM
I basically am looking at it this way,

the .40 cal hand gun and carbine, 12 ga would be for selfdefense now and in a survial situation. If something happens to prompt a bug out/in- when you are scavanging for food/supplies you need to lay stopping power down range and taking down large groups (12 ga)

a .22 rifle for technique practice and past that pure survival. It would be for small game, plentiful to stock up on ammo for a survial scenario. Also when bugging out/in your .22 wouldn't broadcast your location as much as blowing a rabbit away with a .40

long range riffle perhaps 306 or 7.62 for larger game and long range self defense scnearios too. Picking off targets as they approach your location- hopefully as they pass through obsticales of your outer permimeter.

Tomahawks and other improvised hand weapons and blades for saving your ammo and stealth and tool usage.-

That way in the end of building my cache- I would need only to horde .40 cal target and selfdefense rounds, .22 rounds, 12ga and rifle. Now maybe I won't get to the rifle right away... but I think stocking up on .40, .22, 12 and perhaps a rifle round isn't that bad.

steve001hsd
03-13-2012, 08:46 PM
I love my 9mm carbine and pistol. I actual loaded HOT loads fir the carbine and broke the firing pin. I called hi point and told tthem what i did and they sent me a new pin free of charge. Even though it was my fault for the hot loads.

DixieJeeper
03-13-2012, 10:59 PM
I have heard their customer service is phenominal.. I saw a video wher a guy destroyed his hipoint hand gun on purpose and then showed the him getting the new firearm for free.

XJDOUG
03-25-2012, 05:46 PM
I own a high point carbine. Total piece of garbage. Everything keeps coming loose, not accurate at all! The accessorie rails keep falling off and it jambs up atleast once every 10 shots. Well for $180.00 for a new gun what do you expect.

DixieJeeper
03-26-2012, 02:42 PM
you must have an earlier version crabine with the solid stock?

XJDOUG
03-26-2012, 11:33 PM
Its the newer version. Not one good thing to say about it! But if you are only keeping it for safety and protection thats cool. Cheap gun that shoots cheap ammo. Thats why I wanted it. Dont try to shoot target with it. It is not accurate at all. Keep it well oiled. It jambs up allot if you dont. Always check every bolt when done cause they come loose very easliy. I was very dissapointed with mine. But like I said earlier for under 200 bucks you cant beat em.

DixieJeeper
03-27-2012, 11:24 PM
you have a 9mm? I got mine in .40 cal and wasn't under 200. I think the 9mm was like 199.99