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2002wranglerX
08-14-2012, 01:26 PM
http://youtu.be/zPxMZ1WdINs

PatF10
08-14-2012, 02:02 PM
Yea its nice to hear someone actually make sense that we can not just keep spending money like we are.

MemorEsto
08-14-2012, 02:10 PM
He's an avid hunter, he gets my vote!

2002wranglerX
08-14-2012, 02:20 PM
The Dems are making fun of him for doing p90x before session but I respect the discipline.

OverkillZJ
08-14-2012, 02:27 PM
There's things I do and don't like about him, just like Romney. Overall, I think he's a good VP pick for the Republicans. I have major issues with both parties right now, unfortunately - there is no vote for either of the spending-freaks that'd make me leave the voting booth smiling.

MemorEsto
08-14-2012, 02:37 PM
Sadly it's a vote for the lesser of two evils........ again

Muzikman
08-14-2012, 02:38 PM
I can find more good with Paul Ryan than I can find good with Romney.

OverkillZJ
08-14-2012, 02:58 PM
As can I. That doesn't mean I'd leave the booth smiling after pulling the lever. The state of our government is pathetic.

DixieJeeper
08-14-2012, 03:01 PM
^agreed.. Ryan makes a better pres. canidate and is more of a compromiser than poloarizer that Rommney is

justin'sbig7
08-14-2012, 03:10 PM
^agreed.. Ryan makes a better pres. canidate and is more of a compromiser than poloarizer that Rommney is

i would much rather have a hard headed leader that will end the spending and growing of government than a passive compromiser (neither of the above will do this IMHO). theres a time when one side becomes so wrong that you need a polar opposite and it becomes a good thing. I am convinced that the dems have become the socialist party (at the core) and the republicans are in left field. I would prefer ryan over romney as pres. he seems to be a little more along the lines of tea party mentality and i honestly havent looked into his record very deep yet, but what i have seen doesnt show a compromiser. ill take what i can get for now, but i want less business as usual and more freedom returned.

Muzikman
08-14-2012, 03:10 PM
I agree 100%. I'll be honest though. I am really torn. I really do not want to see Obama back in office, but I really can't see voting for Romney. I would love to write in, but then I fell that it's just asking for a 2nd Obama term. It will truly be a hard decision come election time. The republican primary was pretty much a joke this year and I really think the only reason Romney got the nod (though technically unofficial until the 27th) is because he was the "man to beat" in the press. His name was always out there. Every other primary candidate was compared to him. Honestly though, I'll take Romney over most of the other yahoo's that were in the Republican Primary.

I would really like to see a real solid 3rd party. Not necessarily one that runs on a specific platform or cause, but one that just gives us a 3rd option that really stands a chance. At least then you can choose the lesser of three evils. :)

OverkillZJ
08-14-2012, 03:12 PM
That summarizes my feelings pretty well.

Muzikman
08-14-2012, 03:13 PM
You will never get the two sides (Dems and Repub) to compromise any time soon. They are so torn that out of spite one will do the exact opposite of the other no matter the outcome and no matter if they really believe in their stance.

justin'sbig7
08-14-2012, 03:16 PM
if ever there was a time, this is it for a good third party to gain strength... not pop up just before election as a spoiler.

I never did and never would consider voting for barry. especially after all he has done.

Super Scout
08-14-2012, 03:21 PM
I wont, but I have often thought about voting for Obama. My thoughts are maybe things have to get really really bad for this country to finally realize what the hell is going on. Give obama 4 more years, vote in the democrats and let them bring us down. Than maybe we will a elect someone worthwhile. Like I said I thought about it, I will be voting Romney, hope I am wrong but I think he is going to lose.

2002wranglerX
08-14-2012, 03:22 PM
I get wanting a better candidate but voting 3rd party this election might as well be a non vote. Romney wasn't my first choice. But after the destruction of a democratic house/senate/presidency we have to take anything we can get to stop the bleeding. Obama is going to try and make this election about social issues because
He can't run on his record. Ryan does a helluva job pointing out the plain economic bullshit. I love that.

Entitlements are out of control and need reigned in before we end up like Greece. I'm sure there will be lots of spin. Romney kills cancer patients and Ryan wants seniors to lose medicare according to the dems. But bottom line is if we do nothing all those programs will go bankrupt anyway.

2002wranglerX
08-15-2012, 07:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJIC7kEq6kw

man i wish he was running for president...

Christopher
08-16-2012, 02:34 PM
The more interviews from the past I see from Ryan the more I like him. Cannot belive Romney picked him...very glad though, I did not know much about him.
I do have more confidence Romney actually knows where the battle is.

OverkillZJ
08-16-2012, 03:06 PM
Slightly off topic, and a bit of a tangent, but as much as I like him as VP, I don't know (and I never thought I'd be saying this) that I can support either major party this election. I realize many of you really believe that any vote other than Romney is a vote for Obama, but sticking to that belief is what's sticking us with a two party system that is destroying our country with "more of the same" every election. The libertarians don't have a chance of winning, but I feel like giving my vote to something I don't truly believe in is compromising my own belief's even further. To be honest I"m not sure where my vote will land this election, but for the first time since I've been of voting age, there's a very good chance it'll be for the little guy. If third parties begin getting more and more votes dwindling away at the two major cluster****s we have now, something needs to change.

I'll just leave this here. I wish Ron Paul (whom I also like) would do what is RIGHT and endorse this man.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X3QRSIXgns

justin'sbig7
08-16-2012, 03:21 PM
I know what toure sayin matt, but i think to have a chance we need to rally the libertarians from the bottom up after an election, you dont hear much from them till just before elections. If the libertarians have a shot, they need to start campaigning after this election and shoot solidly for the next one... Possibly win some smaller seats first as well to gain momentum

Muzikman
08-16-2012, 03:41 PM
Matt, Don't worry, Ron Paul will endorse Johnson, but you have to remember, right now he's still fighting the losing battle to be come the Republican candidate.

joshs1ofakindxj
08-16-2012, 04:14 PM
I wont, but I have often thought about voting for Obama. My thoughts are maybe things have to get really really bad for this country to finally realize what the hell is going on. Give obama 4 more years, vote in the democrats and let them bring us down. Than maybe we will a elect someone worthwhile. Like I said I thought about it, I will be voting Romney, hope I am wrong but I think he is going to lose.

Let the libtards take us back to the stone age.

Long and hard is the way out of hell, that leads up to light.

Christopher
08-16-2012, 04:28 PM
I used to think 3rd party. And I understand the 3rd party route. ... time is too critical.. Winning is important, especially when you look at where we are now Imagine if this admin was not worried about re-election, also judges being appointed with lifetime positions. I think the way to win is to do what the the tea party is doing instead of a 3rd party.. Change the republican candidates, change the existing party. There have been a few recent elections and the 2010 congressional elections, where the "establishment" republican candidates have been beat by the tea party endorsed candidates. It takes time.

Muzikman
08-16-2012, 04:41 PM
Problem is the Tea Party doesn't even know what they believe in any more.

Christopher
08-16-2012, 06:46 PM
All the tea party is............. is Basically the American idea. Now taking elections seriously.

justin'sbig7
08-16-2012, 07:36 PM
Problem is the Tea Party doesn't even know what they believe in any more.

Maybe politicians claiming affilitions with the tea party, but not the tea party.

I am a bit pissed at the seeming complaisancy of a lot (not all) of the republicans who won on a tea party schtick it seems to have become business as usual.

I dont think its the time to push the third party pre election, no time to actually make it work, but immediately after the election.... Game on!

Super Scout
08-16-2012, 07:45 PM
I agree, republicans as a whole need to get back to being true conservatives, esp with the economy. Someone needs to man up draw a line in the sand and stop spending money. One way or the other it will happen.