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HeepH8erTy
12-30-2012, 01:46 AM
Im watching doomsday preppers and this dooshe-bag is saying that he is collecting used motor oil to run his duece and a half off of...like he's going to run it off of straight used motor oil. I've heard of blending used oil with new diesel fuel....but never running a diesel off of straight used motor oil. Is this possible? I think it would be badass if so... so I wanted to see if this was some t.v. b.s. or not.

BUZZINHALFDOZZEN
12-30-2012, 03:17 AM
It wont be happy starting in the winter, but it will run.

joshs1ofakindxj
12-30-2012, 09:53 AM
Ya I would at least run a minimum of 10% kero or gas plus additive in it. If that is the guy that lives out west he might be in a climate that stays warm eough year round to run straight oil.

It really should be filtered before going in the truck tanks or you will wreck your on board filters and your injection system after awhile.

DMG
12-30-2012, 08:43 PM
If you preheat it or mix it ith gas it will work in many diesels.

atvboo
12-30-2012, 11:20 PM
I aways thought you needed to start it regular then switch to the oil then switch back shortly before shut down to have diesel ready for the next start

joshs1ofakindxj
12-31-2012, 01:53 AM
I don't know a thing about running a "normal" diesel engine on waste oils but a deuce is designed as a multifuel engine, able to start and run on damn near anything flammable. Gas (with oil added), kero, diesel, waste motor oil, waste ATF, waste cooking oil, etc.

oros35
12-31-2012, 01:37 PM
The multifuel deuce will run on straight oil, but like said, it's a bit heavy and would work better cut with something lighter. Especially when cold.
And no, you don't switch with a multifuel engine, what's in the tank is what you get.

HeepH8erTy
12-31-2012, 03:56 PM
no kiddin, I had no idea, ya learn somethin new every day haha That is pretty dern sweet. Sounds like it would be a bad idea to find a duece after the apocalypse haha

joshs1ofakindxj
01-01-2013, 01:28 PM
I'm sure you meant "wouldn't be a bad idea".

I would be much more interested in that motor on a much smaller, lighter, and better geared vehice. The deuce is too slow and too big, making yourself a pretty good target.

I have a spare deuce motor and transmission, so I often think about what I could drop it in/on. Here is one guy's rat rod with a multifuel:

http://youtu.be/2EFN3-__ob0

The major downside is the fully dressed motor and transmission weighs around 2000 lb.

ridgerunner97
01-01-2013, 08:16 PM
You have to make your own chassis/vehicle I honestly can't think of anything that you could put that combo in that would be big enough to accept it but be as nimble as something could be with a 1 ton engine and trans LOL

Super Scout
01-01-2013, 11:37 PM
Dude put a contentinal multifuel engine in an International Pick up truck. Early 70s one ton.

ridgerunner97
01-02-2013, 05:24 AM
^ You would have to run a good bit of lift to clear front axle on oil pan, not to mention a leaf pack off the back of a concrete truck LOL

joshs1ofakindxj
01-02-2013, 08:20 AM
Lift springs OR!!! custom cowl induction hood with a 12" tall scoop

Super Scout
01-02-2013, 12:43 PM
^ You would have to run a good bit of lift to clear front axle on oil pan, not to mention a leaf pack off the back of a concrete truck LOL

He didnt really, when I get home I will post a pic.

Super Scout
01-02-2013, 12:45 PM
Also consider that a fully dressed international 392 weighs in at 875, add 350 for the transmission so you are 1325 ish engine and transmission, throw a plow on the front, and you got close to 2000 pounds over the front end. So upgraded springs are not that important. Maybe just throw an extra helper on.

joshs1ofakindxj
01-02-2013, 01:57 PM
So you're telling me if you had a plow on the front end of that truck year round it wouldn't need anything, except maybe a little "helper"? That crappy old scout would explode once the weather warmed up and all the parts tightened up again!

Super Scout
01-02-2013, 02:07 PM
This isnt on a Scout its a 1310 travellete. One ton Internationals came with a Dana 70 front end, which I believe was rated for 7,000 pounds. So yes that is exactly what I am saying.

Super Scout
01-02-2013, 02:09 PM
The first Dana 70 front axle was used in 1958 by Dodge in the W300, in both 4.88 and 5.87 ratios. International started using Dana 70 front axles in the late 1960s. Both companies used Dana 70 front axles until the mid-1970s. All of these Dana 70 front axles were closed knuckle, with king pins and had a GAWR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_axle_weight_rating) of 6000 lbs. Like the rear Dana 70 axles, the Dana 70 front axle started out with 23 spline axle shafts and then went to 35 spline axle shafts. While these axles were being manufactured, Dana offered a "Power-Lok" limited slip differential (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_slip_differential) for some of these axles.

So 6,000 pounds still plenty of beef I would say.

Super Scout
01-02-2013, 06:58 PM
Here is the pic, I imagine thats a future ridgerunner in front:
176

ridgerunner97
01-02-2013, 10:23 PM
Lol

joshs1ofakindxj
01-02-2013, 11:12 PM
No that little kid would be crawling under it looking at the drivetrain if it was a future ridgerunner

Super Scout
01-03-2013, 08:55 AM
And touching himself.