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justin'sbig7
03-04-2013, 11:28 AM
On top of another 1.6 billion rounds of ammo ordered on top of last years 2 billion round order, there was an order for 2700 mine Proof armored vehicles to be used on US soil. Thoughts? Any rational explanations?

Not sure on this links credibility, but I have seen it a few other places too

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/obama-dhs-purchases-2700-light-armored-tanks-to-go-with-their-1-6-billion-bullet-stockpile/

joshs1ofakindxj
03-04-2013, 12:04 PM
They must of seen my exploding shooting target videos on facebook and realized their mini vans were no match.

justin'sbig7
03-04-2013, 12:18 PM
They must of seen my exploding shooting target videos on facebook and realized their mini vans were no match.


LOL! Humor appreciated!

Super Scout
03-04-2013, 01:21 PM
I read stuff like that and think I am losing it. That there has to be a logical explanation for this. But maybe there isn't.

jkrob
03-04-2013, 08:52 PM
I have been looking for the logic behind this but am yet to find it. I did find it reported in a number of locations.

Azzy
03-05-2013, 12:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

Cant take away freedoms with a standing army, but if you arrest your political enemies after you've branded them as crazy, then your neighbors will watch as they toss you into boxcars. Or military surplus trucks.

The_War_Wagon
03-05-2013, 01:21 AM
I read stuff like that and think I am losing it. That there has to be a logical explanation for this. But maybe there isn't.

When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains - however improbable - must be the truth... :paranoid:

HeepH8erTy
03-05-2013, 08:19 AM
oooo it has a Cumming diesel engine :flamer:

No but really tho, what the hell do they need a shit-ton of those for? Noticed him saying at the end of the video clip "we're a national team and we go help other teams across the country with whatever they have 'pending'"... which would be.... taking over the country!? Or maybe Obammy is gettin a lil paranoid that the people are going to have an uprising?

joshs1ofakindxj
03-05-2013, 09:49 AM
I was listening to 104.7 this morning they were tearing apart the whole sequestration boondoggle, and what really got me thinking was this commercial they played that the democrats/executive office put together highlighting all the false/over exaggerated impacts like people loosing jobs and women and children going hungry in the streets, etc.

A few nights ago I watched part 2 of Atlas Shrugged the movie. I also listened to the audio book and it lines right up with what our government is trying to make sequestration out to be. They want us to think every dollar of government spending is necessary, government growth can't be stopped, the thin veneer of society will be blown away, etc. Typical Washington Monument Syndrome.

The theme of Atlas Shrugged is that civilization cannot exist where every person is a slave to society and government, and that the destruction of profit motive leads to the collapse of society. In the story, the greatest leaders of business and the greatest thinkers of society go on strike and withdraw from the world while the government takes possession of all intellectual property and freezes wage and production rates causing an economic melt down.

Check it out.

Azzy
03-05-2013, 10:39 AM
Still gotta watch part 1.

And some of these towns need to publicly tell the feds to pound sand when it comes to natural disasters, or just about anything.

HeepH8erTy
03-05-2013, 11:29 AM
I'd like to watch that. Where do you watch it? Got a linky? Hulu perhaps?

joshs1ofakindxj
03-05-2013, 12:25 PM
Torrent from pirate bay

phfister
03-05-2013, 01:01 PM
Saw this too, literally no rational reason for them to need 2700 armored personal carriers.

Starting to look more and more like a weird dystopian future.

DMG
03-05-2013, 02:04 PM
Occams Razor states answer that requires the least assumptions (the simplest answer) is usually the best.

The DHS is buying military weapons and equipment. The military is practicing urban combat with helicopters in our large cities. So either there is a new, serious, threat of being invaded or they expect to have to deal with unrest or resistance by US citizens. Maybe a revolution or martial law.

Super Scout
03-05-2013, 02:15 PM
What makes me nervous is lets say we are right.
The government is getting ready to throw down. Using our money, drying up the supply of ammo, buying combat ready vehicles, etc. Training in our cities.
I know a lot of us are like minded....but if this where to happen we have no plan. No anything.

2002wranglerX
03-05-2013, 02:19 PM
I'll resist in whatever way i can. I"m not going to walk outside and shoot a mrap with a 9mm. That's just stupid. But i am planning for the worst. The biggest thing for me is trying to get a supply of enzymes for amelia. My wife thinks i'm nuts but i'm hoarding as much as i can. Which at 30-35 pills a day... isn't very much. But i'm terrified there will be an uprising or martial law that could affect the supply of drugs.


What makes me nervous is lets say we are right.
The government is getting ready to throw down. Using our money, drying up the supply of ammo, buying combat ready vehicles, etc. Training in our cities.
I know a lot of us are like minded....but if this where to happen we have no plan. No anything.

joshs1ofakindxj
03-05-2013, 04:52 PM
I would rather not talk about it on here.

My renter said to me yesterday if they were coming door to door for the guns he would hurry up and sell it on the black market. I laughed to myself. That is not the answer.

Azzy
03-05-2013, 04:59 PM
Occams Razor states answer that requires the least assumptions (the simplest answer) is usually the best.

The DHS is buying military weapons and equipment. The military is practicing urban combat with helicopters in our large cities. So either there is a new, serious, threat of being invaded or they expect to have to deal with unrest or resistance by US citizens. Maybe a revolution or martial law.

Or they are buying up to prevent anyone else from having it. Just them buying M4s in bulk uses up the common parts market. Ammo, well thats easy. Dries up our supply. And get enough military gear to the local cops, and they start acting like military. No need for Posse Comitatus then. Historically, during any occupation, police go back to doing their job... organizing the people and keeping order. this is why Great Britain's underground spy and assasin network was told to eliminate any peorson working for the occupying force, in the case of an invasion (which was only 1 island).

The_War_Wagon
03-05-2013, 05:01 PM
Saw this too, literally no rational reason for them to need 2700 armored personal carriers.

Starting to look more and more like a weird dystopian future.

54 APC's per STATE. I like those odds...:029:

Super Scout
03-05-2013, 07:31 PM
I feel eventually a line must be drawn. I would like to see people move, gun owners in New York move, come to PA, or WV, or wherever. I would like to see every gun related business in all anti gun states shut down. But at some point some sort of Federal Gun law will be passed.... The question is what happens then, if House Bill .357 is passed in PA, and the Fed passes an anti gun law, what then ?

DMG
03-05-2013, 08:13 PM
It is time to start thinking about what to do when unrest starts or martial law is declared. But it is not a great idea to discuss it here.

justin'sbig7
03-05-2013, 10:25 PM
We need a "range day" meet &greet... Or just a meet and greet in a quiet place

DMG
03-05-2013, 11:41 PM
Agreed

Azzy
03-06-2013, 01:03 AM
Im up for a get-together out this way. Those north hills ones are too far :D

Range days are tough. Finding a range, and ammo to use......

HeepH8erTy
03-06-2013, 08:41 AM
I'm there. I got the locations for shooting or quietness if no one else does.

PatF10
03-06-2013, 10:03 AM
Well lets have a meet and greet south of pgh, Then put together plans for a range day. I do have access to a place about an hr southwest of washington pa where one can shoot about as much as one would want.

justin'sbig7
03-06-2013, 10:21 AM
I am thinking shooting is not the important part.

HeepH8erTy
03-06-2013, 11:04 AM
I am thinking shooting is not the important part.

me 2. But I'm liking the "meeting south of PGH" idea. Lets get somethin together.

Azzy
03-06-2013, 11:07 AM
Here here. Week or weekend?

justin'sbig7
03-06-2013, 12:59 PM
Here's a cool idea

http://pintsandpatriots.com/

Super Scout
03-06-2013, 01:56 PM
I am game, meet discuss, and than plan a range day. Tho I don't like ranges. If someone is willing to donate a car we can have a blow the car up day.

PatF10
03-06-2013, 08:13 PM
Here here. Week or weekend?

im usually better during the week, usually at our camp/farm on the weekends but sure i can try to make whatever

Christopher
03-07-2013, 02:26 AM
The bullet purchases, armored vehicle purchases, Now drone use on Americans... It is to scare people into compliance, my opinion. It is scary.
Do they have employees willing to use those assets on innocent Americans and the possible consequences?
They probably have some.
I also know why I have the rights I do and why I will defend them
It is not because my employer told me to.
So I say keep calm, and keep your friends calm, be aware, wake up who you can, get with like minded sane people.
A meeting would be great.. not concerned with shooting. I do not have enough to waste.

I sure wish I had some navy seals or other military as close friends... they could tell me not to worry its all going to be ok.:087:

The_War_Wagon
03-07-2013, 08:29 AM
Here's a cool idea

http://pintsandpatriots.com/


We could form the Saw Mill Blvd. Irregulars... :paranoid:

When not drinking, eating, or shooting, I have UN-limited to access, to what could be a VERY under-the radar 'clubhouse'...

sethman15210
03-07-2013, 12:23 PM
hmmm, sandwiches and guns,,,im in!

Super Scout
03-07-2013, 12:32 PM
I vote the HQ in yukon, or my house I have more booze than most bars anyways but only one sh&^ter.

joshs1ofakindxj
03-07-2013, 01:18 PM
Haha the HQ in Yukon is perfect. Headquarters is calling...

But seriously, for political activism, we should be coordinating on here like we are.

As far as SHTF contingencies, I think we should be sticking to our local regions and planning offline in small groups. There is some shit I would do for the good people of pghor but my family and local community has priority. I'm not driving into the south hills in the deuce to evac a bunch of right wing displaced persons that shouldn't have been living in suburbia in the first place haha.

With that said, it would be sweet if we all had HAM radio or something if things got really ugly so we could communicate and coordinate. Even though we're only located in different parts of SWPA around PGH we're still far apart.

Just some suggestions for an itinerary for a possible meeting...

First, we have to identify what we are concerned with occurring. As crazy as it sounds when you say it, get it out there so everyone is on the same page. Im not embarrassed to admit I am concerned with government, solar flares, other natural disasters, zombies, terrorist attacks, suitcase nukes, motorcycle gangs, high cholesterol, etc.

Stay put or get out of dodge, and to where? Do you have supplies ready to go? Will your vehicle hold everything? Are your supplies ready at your bug out location like hunting camp or whatever. Do you keep enough fuel for your vehicle on hand?

Who will be the opposition, what will they look like, and ROE.

Third, your personal obligations and responsibility to security and preparation for yourself and immediate family. We all have different situations and values. Recognize that everyone else values their loved ones as much as you do yours.

And opsec, opsec, opsec. Don't go around boasting about your food storage, your plans, etc unless you are certain everyone that hears your message or reads your post on pgh they found via google will not be able to find your house and come for your stuff. There is a guy I recently met at work that saw I was into guns and started telling me about his bunker, food storage, buried guns, etc. guy doesn't know me from Homer Simpson. I might be a sociopath that will come for his stuff when it gets ugly. Too bad I would be in line behind all the other people he already told.

Prepare today for a worry free tomorrow.

Azzy
03-08-2013, 10:30 AM
Ive got a CB antenna on top of the house that reaches pretty far on a clear evening. Its backup for when the wife cant reach me on a cell in the black hole of Finleyville. Or that was the plan :)

So when we meeting?

Super Scout
03-08-2013, 11:04 AM
Somebody call it.

HeepH8erTy
03-08-2013, 11:40 AM
Hows Sunday sometime looking for you guys? And where are we trying to meet? Someone's house or garage? I'd volunteer but I cant accommodate very man at my house.

Azzy
03-08-2013, 12:19 PM
Ive got a FOAC meeting Sunday AM (hint, you guys are welcome to come to those.....) and another meeting after for Tekko. Maybe the evening would work.

justin'sbig7
03-08-2013, 12:41 PM
Touching on Josh's plan a little I think it's a good idea, however a network of places to go may be good to have in line. If an evacuation goes in, it's hard to say where it may happen or that only urban areas will be affected. It may be good to meet as north "safe" places as well as a south east and west "safe" location. I'd like to think that bugging in is good but the possibility of having to skiddadle is highly likely.

Alternate communication is key. If the "zombies" shut down phone and networking abilities, how would people be able to relay what is going on and where. The ham radio is good but extremely traceable. CB with people in relay positions may be best.

This Sunday is out for me, and it may be better for folks in the different geographical regions to have their own discussions.

joshs1ofakindxj
03-08-2013, 12:56 PM
Im planning on going to the foac meeting as well.

justin'sbig7
03-08-2013, 01:37 PM
where is the foac meeting located?

joshs1ofakindxj
03-08-2013, 02:55 PM
Sunday 10am at baldwin-Whitehall municipal building.

The password is liberty or death.









Just kidding on that last part

The_War_Wagon
03-09-2013, 01:07 AM
We could meet at MY place most any time, EXCEPT Sunday morning. Most other days and times are negotiable... 8)

HoodRN
03-09-2013, 11:31 AM
Do a google search of "US billionaires dumping US stocks". Buffett, Soros, Paulson, et al, are dumping US bank stocks (Goldman Sachs) and consumer stocks (Johnson and Johnson, Proctor-Gamble, Kraft) like hot coals. This in the middle of a "historic" market rally. Privately, US politicians are also slithering away from the market even as they are cheerleading the "rally". The house of cards may be shaking, and the type of market correction that has these guys running for the tall grass will devastate the rest of us. Jobs gone, retirements gone, pensions disappear, etc. Hopefully, none of this comes to pass. Then again, the economy doesn't operate on "hope", and we have amateurs at the helm.

Azzy
03-09-2013, 11:56 AM
We have Pros at the helm. They've been raised by socialists, schooled by Progressives, and voted in by fools. They know what they are doing, its just not what you, I or the founders would think is right.

Super Scout
03-09-2013, 06:06 PM
Do a google search of "US billionaires dumping US stocks". Buffett, Soros, Paulson, et al, are dumping US bank stocks (Goldman Sachs) and consumer stocks (Johnson and Johnson, Proctor-Gamble, Kraft) like hot coals. This in the middle of a "historic" market rally. Privately, US politicians are also slithering away from the market even as they are cheerleading the "rally". The house of cards may be shaking, and the type of market correction that has these guys running for the tall grass will devastate the rest of us. Jobs gone, retirements gone, pensions disappear, etc. Hopefully, none of this comes to pass. Then again, the economy doesn't operate on "hope", and we have amateurs at the helm.


No offense, but the concept is buy low, sell high. Billionaires do this all the time, that dude that is preaching that just wants you too buy his book or whatever. But, now more than ever you better stay on top of your stocks.

Wrecker
03-10-2013, 09:11 AM
Maybe Buffet is selling to raise money to support buying Heinz.

joshs1ofakindxj
03-10-2013, 11:32 AM
Well I tried to find the FOAC meeting and failed. Maybe next time

Azzy
03-10-2013, 10:37 PM
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=baldwin+whitehall+municipal+building&hl=en&ll=40.351051,-79.978776&spn=0.001639,0.003484&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hq=baldwin+whitehall+municipal+building&radius=15000&t=m&z=19&iwloc=A

You go in like you are going into the library, only the library is to the right (upper level parking) and the community room is straight in.

XJ_Sean
03-11-2013, 07:59 AM
I was listening to 104.7 this morning they were tearing apart the whole sequestration boondoggle, and what really got me thinking was this commercial they played that the democrats/executive office put together highlighting all the false/over exaggerated impacts like people loosing jobs and women and children going hungry in the streets, etc.

A few nights ago I watched part 2 of Atlas Shrugged the movie. I also listened to the audio book and it lines right up with what our government is trying to make sequestration out to be. They want us to think every dollar of government spending is necessary, government growth can't be stopped, the thin veneer of society will be blown away, etc. Typical Washington Monument Syndrome.

The theme of Atlas Shrugged is that civilization cannot exist where every person is a slave to society and government, and that the destruction of profit motive leads to the collapse of society. In the story, the greatest leaders of business and the greatest thinkers of society go on strike and withdraw from the world while the government takes possession of all intellectual property and freezes wage and production rates causing an economic melt down.

Check it out.

Read the book a few years back, Really changed the way i look at things... Best book i've ever read

joshs1ofakindxj
03-11-2013, 08:23 AM
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=baldwin+whitehall+municipal+building&hl=en&ll=40.351051,-79.978776&spn=0.001639,0.003484&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hq=baldwin+whitehall+municipal+building&radius=15000&t=m&z=19&iwloc=A

You go in like you are going into the library, only the library is to the right (upper level parking) and the community room is straight in.

Ya I was no where close haha

Super Scout
03-11-2013, 08:41 AM
Watched part one Friday night, it really does line up with what is happening right now.