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OverkillZJ
09-03-2008, 12:42 PM
2011 EDIT! - I don't know why the link pics changed and won't show, but you can view them all at http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=29983&id=506839510&l=4dc64f8927 – highlights are below.

Here's one I just took, a few years later I'm back at it, finally.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs800.ash1/169050_500063654510_506839510_5848406_871987_n.jpg

I'm a wuss, and the Samurai just rides too rough on and off road... Which lead to a severely overboard conversion: replace the leaf spring suspension with a fully coil sprung long arm suspension, over the knuckle steering, etc. Big project, will update as stuff is completed.
All pics on facebook at http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=29983&id=506839510&l=4dc64f8927 – highlights are below.




This is a Rocky Road Outfitters kit. Do not buy from them. Period, end of story.


This is a work in progress…
Never buy from Rocky Road Outfitters, beyond their shady practices and slow shipping (and outright lies at times) - there is NO reason for a long arm kit to ship with the johny joints in pieces. Not everyone has an installation tool or 20 ton press.

http://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-snc1/v321/34/61/506839510/n506839510_679581_7754.jpg

Another reason not to order for them, at the cost of this kit, there is no reason for them to be using manufacturing processes which leave holes this freakin' out of round. That's pathetic.
http://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-snc1/v321/34/61/506839510/n506839510_679582_7997.jpg

Cutting old stuff off:
http://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-snc1/v321/34/61/506839510/n506839510_679580_7462.jpg


Rear truss welded on, Steve makes my welds look like buggers, and mine aren't bad!
http://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-snc1/v321/34/61/506839510/n506839510_679583_8283.jpg

http://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-snc1/v321/34/61/506839510/n506839510_679584_8564.jpg

http://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-snc1/v321/34/61/506839510/n506839510_679585_8834.jpg

http://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-snc1/v321/34/61/506839510/n506839510_679586_9114.jpg

http://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-snc1/v321/34/61/506839510/n506839510_679587_9390.jpg

This rig has definitely been jumped (even before I got it) -the kit (STUPIDLY) uses the old bump stop mount as a place for the coil to mount. It's crushed in and collapsing, so it's being cut off and replaced.
http://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-snc1/v321/34/61/506839510/n506839510_679588_9672.jpg

The view from my home office
http://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-snc1/v321/34/61/506839510/n506839510_679589_9955.jpg

http://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-snc1/v321/34/61/506839510/n506839510_679590_247.jpg

http://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-snc1/v321/34/61/506839510/n506839510_679591_561.jpg

Steve's new coil mounts to replace the crappy bumpstop style mounts: these are actually built out of an old style Claytons Off-Road upper control arm (1.5" box, 1/4" wall.)
http://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-snc1/v321/34/61/506839510/n506839510_679592_845.jpg

Bird_Flu
09-03-2008, 02:24 PM
I like the progress so far, the kit looks like a complete piece of shit, especially because it looks like you could have built one as quickly, but all in all looks good. I'll be out this weekend to help out with whatever you need.

SirFuego
09-03-2008, 02:45 PM
I say that I get to wheel this thing with Bird_Flu in the passenger seat when it's done.

OverkillZJ
09-03-2008, 02:47 PM
You need to have him lean out the passenger door if you want to hit reverse without nailing him in the nuts!

Bird_Flu
09-03-2008, 02:56 PM
SirFuego, I don't think you and I would fit in this thing. Matt and I barely fit and I look like I'm riding in a shriner's car.

SirFuego
09-03-2008, 03:09 PM
SirFuego, I don't think you and I would fit in this thing. Matt and I barely fit and I look like I'm riding in a shriner's car.

Hence why I made the comment. I'm sure it would be entertaining for everyone. Would the engine be strong enough to even move the Sami?

Bird_Flu
09-03-2008, 03:16 PM
I don't know but if we all make it to Rock Run on October 11th I say we have to find out.

wozz
09-03-2008, 04:32 PM
hey man that looks sweet. Let us know how it does.

90LiftedYJ
09-03-2008, 05:18 PM
looking good matt cant wait to see it all done up.

gonecheenin
09-03-2008, 09:41 PM
Looks sweet Matt!

though I simply can't stop myself from saying that Toy axles would have made all that work complete & done for good

Either way, gotta be a huge improvement :023:

RalphDogg
09-03-2008, 09:48 PM
rocky road is just as bad as calmini in every aspect. i am sure it will be smooth and quiet on the trail. scrap those bfg tires and get a set of 34" LTB's

OverkillZJ
09-04-2008, 10:58 AM
Just got the BFG's, for cheap, and never had a problem with BFG's :)

gearhead313
09-04-2008, 11:29 AM
wow... i always wanted to do that conversion! I cant wait to see how it turns out :)

92YJCBG
09-04-2008, 12:47 PM
slap some steeler stickers on it and wheel it, or in your case roll it haha

Muzikman
09-04-2008, 02:09 PM
Rolling the Sammi might be kind of scary, I don't think it has any form of cage.

Bird_Flu
09-04-2008, 02:26 PM
Rolling the Sammi might be kind of scary, I don't think it has any form of cage.

It has a hoop right behind the front seats, but not much beyond that.

MF Steve!
09-04-2008, 04:36 PM
No cage..YET. He needs to break in that bender!

OverkillZJ
09-04-2008, 04:37 PM
I'd be up for a cage but I gave my 2 and a half sticks of tube to a couple of crazy bastards to build the punisher :overkill:

Jokes aside, I really want to build an internal cage, nothing to really "save" the rig in a real rollover, but something to save my neck!

RalphDogg
09-07-2008, 08:18 AM
Just got the BFG's, for cheap, and never had a problem with BFG's :)

im not bashing the bfg's. i'm just partial to the LTB on the sami for some reason and they seem to be the popular combo. maybe some day i will get mine back together and we can make a trip to the zookimelt.

MF Steve!
09-07-2008, 09:40 AM
I'd be up for a cage but I gave my 2 and a half sticks of tube to a couple of crazy bastards to build the punisher :overkill:

Jokes aside, I really want to build an internal cage, nothing to really "save" the rig in a real rollover, but something to save my neck!

There are 3 sticks sitting at the shop! :flipoff2:

OverkillZJ
09-07-2008, 11:35 AM
im not bashing the bfg's. i'm just partial to the LTB on the sami for some reason and they seem to be the popular combo. maybe some day i will get mine back together and we can make a trip to the zookimelt.

I've heard nothing but good things about them, and would like something smaller than 35's on this rig, they just fell into place (right time / price when I needed them.)

OverkillZJ
09-07-2008, 11:36 AM
There are 3 sticks sitting at the shop! :flipoff2:

They look better there, than on my basement floor between the server racks and my washer / dryer :overkill:

oldschoolyotaguy
09-10-2008, 12:09 PM
curiosity strikes....

why stock sammi axles n not a set of toy's?? other than keepin it narrow and legal...

you runnin alloys or birf rings??

jeepxj3
09-10-2008, 12:45 PM
because it starts to look like you stuck full widths under it.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Timmay822/Mikes%20Sami/IMG_1767Medium.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Timmay822/Mikes%20Sami/IMG_1766Medium.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Timmay822/Mikes%20Sami/IMG_1768Medium.jpg

OverkillZJ
09-10-2008, 02:00 PM
curiosity strikes....

why stock sammi axles n not a set of toy's?? other than keepin it narrow and legal...

you runnin alloys or birf rings??

Because this project went overboard enough alrady, and I intend to keep (make) it relatively street legal... have the bugy for the throttle happy wheeling.

Might put alloys in the front, half price right now...

RalphDogg
09-10-2008, 09:10 PM
because it starts to look like you stuck full widths under it.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Timmay822/Mikes%20Sami/IMG_1767Medium.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Timmay822/Mikes%20Sami/IMG_1766Medium.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Timmay822/Mikes%20Sami/IMG_1768Medium.jpg


no offense but full widths aren't 1/2 ton yota axles.

OverkillZJ
09-10-2008, 09:27 PM
Ralph has a point, but I consider all points moot undil backspacing, wheel width, and tire width are taken into account...

gonecheenin
09-11-2008, 04:05 AM
Because this project went overboard enough alrady, and I intend to keep (make) it relatively street legal... have the bugy for the throttle happy wheeling...

I only bring it up so often cause I've seen WAY too many sami's bust stock axles easily offroad, even with only their mighty fire breathing 1.3 providing power down to 33's

Seems the rears bust as much as the D35's do in Jeeps, the fronts pop too but don't seem to be as often


With Toy's however the dang machines seem indestrucable AND although the Toy's are a little bit wider, they are still very easy to keep streetable with the right tire & wheel combo

oldschoolyotaguy
09-11-2008, 08:47 AM
I only bring it up so often cause I've seen WAY too many sami's bust stock axles easily offroad, even with only their mighty fire breathing 1.3 providing power down to 33's

Seems the rears bust as much as the D35's do in Jeeps, the fronts pop too but don't seem to be as often


With Toy's however the dang machines seem indestrucable AND although the Toy's are a little bit wider, they are still very easy to keep streetable with the right tire & wheel combo


ya, sammi axles just seem wayyy too small to be under a core wheeler, IMHO...im pickin one up off a buddy this summer for cheap and im gonna throw my toy's under it(since it has a buick 3.8/th350 in it ha), dunno if ill run a 3.75 BS wheel or not, depends if it gets streeted at all and what tire size I run

its not just the strength of the axle, a samurai weighs just around a ton, loaded for the trail (+ or - some)...so the weight the axles carry drops substantially, thus making it "stronger"

OverkillZJ
09-11-2008, 09:09 AM
Then someone give me yota axles...

OverkillZJ
09-11-2008, 03:53 PM
Sweet, high steer setup showed uptoday, along with drivehaft spacers and various other details.

Bird_Flu
09-11-2008, 04:08 PM
Sweet, high steer setup showed uptoday, along with drivehaft spacers and various other details.
Holy crap that was faster than expected especially considering it's from RRO.

oldschoolyotaguy
03-25-2009, 05:54 PM
matt, im curious as to what weight the coils are that came with the kit you put under it... im assuming their qa1 coils??

cuz im linkin mine and im lookin at qa1's 14" 150lb and 130lb coils...150 front/130 rear...that seems to be an ideal coil for a zuk...plus their only $38 through jegs

OverkillZJ
03-25-2009, 06:01 PM
They're 175 at all 4 corners, and I think QA2. It sits higher than I'd like, personally, but I haven't even wheeled or flexed it yet, hope it settles.

oldschoolyotaguy
03-25-2009, 06:05 PM
damn, thats pretty heavy, but then again, add a driver, passenger(preferably topless female), tools, cooler of beer, cage, full tank of gas, etc, etc...

plus mines most likely gonna have a 22re/5spd/duals....

is yours sitting under its own weight?? didnt know of it was done yet...if so, could you measure your frame height for me....HOLLA

just tryin to get a rough idea of how high i should get mine, yet its going to be on 35s/36s...hmmmmm...

RalphDogg
03-25-2009, 09:57 PM
is this done baby yet? i want to see it on a spring training run.

OverkillZJ
03-26-2009, 01:25 AM
It's not done... even when the suspension is, I still have steering to deal with. With a rather fawked up wrist/hand, I can't wheel that thing with manual steering again, I need to get the hydro / hydro assist on. Have all the parts, just a matter of time.

So then when it is done, my 5.9 needs to be done to flat tow its ass... In other words, life got in the way of my hobby.

Shocker.

Stinky - I'll post up when I get a chance, but I think it'll be off since it's only moved 20 feet since I put the coils on, they usuall settle when flexed. I hope!

oldschoolyotaguy
03-26-2009, 02:00 AM
wurd, lemme know bud

90LiftedYJ
03-26-2009, 04:43 PM
We couldnt get it out of the garage. we had to deflate the tires and winch it out with the buggy just to get it out of the garage. it was fun.

OverkillZJ
03-26-2009, 04:52 PM
You forgot to mention I tried pulling it out with the lawn tractor, that was just funny... ended up doing a lawn tractor burnout!

trailblaze
03-26-2009, 04:56 PM
fawked up wrist/hand,



hmmmm you know your supposed to push away from the desk so you don't hit your hand off it while playing with yourself:075:

SirFuego
03-26-2009, 05:07 PM
It'll be ready for icebreakers, right? :038:

OverkillZJ
03-26-2009, 05:25 PM
hmmmm you know your supposed to push away from the desk so you don't hit your hand off it while playing with yourself:075:

LMAO! A 75 lb server (about $4,000 worth) feel and I caught it one handed. Pissed me off so I punched the desk, 8 xrays and a wrist brace later, that apparently wasn't the right thing to do!

OverkillZJ
03-01-2010, 10:38 AM
Almost a year later, and I'm back to it.

Getting it out of the snow drift and into the garage was a wheeling event in itself, Beat was there to laugh at that one. I managed to blast it out in third gear, without brakes.

The plan is still (for now) to keep the stock Samurai axle shafts. I understand they're weak, but the brackets are all welded on, and I want to get this thing moving forward. Eventually it will get bigger axles if I keep it long enough to justify it, but this thing was intended to get me wheeling while I rebuild the buggy, and that's still my plan - so I need to get this thing done to start on the next one.

I sold the truck and trailer, but I'll burn that bridge when I get to it, for now, time to wrench.

How the kit came from RRO http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs443.snc3/25426_335963869510_506839510_3361606_5360400_n.jpg

Getting things lined up.
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs463.ash1/25426_335963889510_506839510_3361607_4823646_n.jpg

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs443.snc3/25426_335963904510_506839510_3361608_15554_n.jpg

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs463.ash1/25426_335963929510_506839510_3361609_7787392_n.jpg

No driveshafts, had to pull it out with the buggy.
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs443.snc3/25426_335963939510_506839510_3361610_1554934_n.jpg

After a break for almost a year (had other things to do) it's back in the garage to get finished up. Got the front shocks on last night, started making brackets to hold the brake lines low and out of the way, and planning for how to build a square drive shaft for the front that should be much stronger.

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs463.snc3/25426_335963959510_506839510_3361611_6511564_n.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs463.ash1/25426_335963969510_506839510_3361612_5783046_n.jpg

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs443.snc3/25426_335963989510_506839510_3361613_2559730_n.jpg

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Deadman 94 xj
03-01-2010, 11:12 AM
That looks like fun! I agree on the cage. I don't see that thing staying on all fours for very long :biggrin:

beat1078
03-01-2010, 01:21 PM
Should have gotten my phone for the video.

How did the bracket for the shocks take shape? Did you end up cutting the one side off and welding it lower?

OverkillZJ
03-01-2010, 01:28 PM
I figured out a way to make sharing that lower bolt work, I did make some shorter sleeves than what came with the kit, works great. If I put the brackets where we weren't thinking about, the shocks would bind too much at the top.

psychobilly
03-01-2010, 01:41 PM
Never buy from Rocky Road Outfitters, beyond their shady practices and slow shipping (and outright lies at times


They made unapproved charges to pinkys (pinky and fattys funland) credit card when he orderd his t-case gears. Then didnt refund the core when he sent his old stuff back either. I cant believe people still buy from them, sorry about your luck.


Also, I hate to be the bearer of more bad news but you might as well cut that front apart now while your working on it. What you got there might look good going down the road but its not a trail suspension. Hell, its really not even a suspension. I'll try to explain, picture the suspension flexed. One arm angled up and one arm angled down. Now picture the angle, like a line drawn across the upper and lower bolts of the mounts on the axle. The angles will be very different, they will cross like an X and unless your axle can twist like a screw in the middle it wont move. It will also destroy the bushings because of the force this creates on them. If it does travel it will do it by bending the arms right behind the Y and smashing the bushings out. Again, I hate to tell you this but you bought a system that wont work for your intended purposes. if you really want to keep the Y type links you either need to use large rubber bushings that will allow enough give or you need to make one side a single mount (wristed). I wouldnt trust those arms as built in that application though as you risk a major failure under hard breaking with one arm controlling all the twist. Again, sorry about your luck but the good news is you know ahead of time and can fix the problem.

OverkillZJ
03-01-2010, 01:45 PM
They made unapproved charges to pinkys (pinky and fattys funland) credit card when he orderd his t-case gears. Then didnt refund the core when he sent his old stuff back either. I cant believe people still buy from them, sorry about your luck.


Also, I hate to be the bearer of more bad news but you might as well cut that front apart now while your working on it. What you got there might look good going down the road but its not a trail suspension. Hell, its really not even a suspension. I'll try to explain, picture the suspension flexed. One arm angled up and one arm angled down. Now picture the angle, like a line drawn across the upper and lower bolts of the mounts on the axle. The angles will be very different, they will cross like an X and unless your axle can twist like a screw in the middle it wont move. It will also destroy the bushings because of the force this creates on them. If it does travel it will do it by bending the arms right behind the Y and smashing the bushings out. Again, I hate to tell you this but you bought a system that wont work for your intended purposes. if you really want to keep the Y type links you either need to use large rubber bushings that will allow enough to give or you need to make one side a single mount. I wouldnt trust those arms as built in that application though as you risk a major failure under hard breaking with one arm controlling all the twist. Again, sorry about your luck but the good news is you know ahead of time and can fix the problem.

Yep. RRO is a nightmare, I'm done with them but running with what I have.


It's a single wristed setup. There's a slip joint on the drivers side lower. The kit isn't the greatest but I've already seen it work very well.

I understand what you're trying to say, but there's only 3 static links on the front axle, not 4. It looks like 4, but the drivers side lower is a smaller piece of tube in the bigger one, allowing it to flex - I assume it's there as a safety in case of breaking a bolt on the other side, it would keep the axle from rotating over on itself.

Deadman 94 xj
03-01-2010, 01:47 PM
A lot of guys remove an upper link without issues. It'd be the same as running a three link IMO, as far as the braking goes. I agree though. I was going to ask about the way the arms mount because the picks don't clearly show it.

Edit: ^ nevermind

psychobilly
03-01-2010, 02:01 PM
sounds good, looking at the pics it looked like a solid Y link which knowing RRO I didnt doubt for a second it was.

OverkillZJ
03-01-2010, 02:07 PM
I understand, I went back to look at the pics before realizing why you said that.

But you're right, I wouldn't put it past them either!

beat1078
03-01-2010, 03:14 PM
Sweet.
Did you put that flipping greese cap back on the link yet?
Stupid black tires and stupid black greese cap.

OverkillZJ
03-01-2010, 05:23 PM
Yep, put it on, and when I was on my way to the post office stopped at napa for the missing shock bushing, they had one that'll work.

I think I might work on it tonight instead of heading to the gym.

ridgerunner97
03-01-2010, 06:34 PM
I think I might work on it tonight instead of heading to the gym.

Hahaha, NOW YOUR TALKIN! Screw the gym, get that bad boy rollin :) Just lay on your back and lift a transfer case above your chest a few times lol.

OverkillZJ
03-01-2010, 06:45 PM
I can lift the transmission with one finger, I'm sure the tcase is even lighter, that's not a workout!

Tonight's a gym night, tomorrows a wrenching night. Going to start alternating :D

RalphDogg
03-02-2010, 08:50 PM
awesome progress!

JeepGeneral
03-02-2010, 09:17 PM
I wonder how far it will make it out of the parking lot this time?

Mykal
03-02-2010, 09:19 PM
I wonder how far it will make it out of the parking lot this time?

x2 haha :064:

OverkillZJ
03-03-2010, 10:13 AM
Ya, alternator is new now. I don't know why I didn't just pull the batteries from the tow rig that day and run on that, probably would've lasted all day, but I didn't want to hold everyone up.

OverkillZJ
01-16-2011, 04:06 PM
So... almost a year later... the thing is back in the garage, and I'm working on it.

Have the tow-bar on it (need to replace a few bolts, though.)

Today I'm trying to figure out what's up with the seizure-inducing turn signals, the wiring is completely hacked up and I'm trying to return it to a usable state. I might get to welding up the rear axle tubes where Stever cut indo them putting brackets on, need to fill with weld, grind down, and brace. Then fill with fluid and play around in my back yard...

As most of you know my plans changed again - I'll be wheeling this with a for-sale sign on it, but don't really want to sell until after next winter when I'm done putting the buggy's 1-ton driveling under the 5.9 grand cherokee. That's going to be a very fun rig, and back to the kind of wheeling I enjoyed the most. No towing, no trailers, no truck just for the hobby - but with a driveline I found to be completely indestructable!

OverkillZJ
01-16-2011, 04:34 PM
Most important modification... License plate!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs800.ash1/169050_500063654510_506839510_5848406_871987_n.jpg

jlovbasz3
01-16-2011, 05:27 PM
Makes me want my Samurai back.

OverkillZJ
01-30-2011, 09:52 PM
Finished the wiring for all of the rear lights. It didn't even have reverse light wiring or working brake lights when I bought it.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs790.ash1/168026_10150094576794511_506839510_5951572_3047429 _n.jpg

Wired in diodes to keep flowback / crosstalk from the tow vehicle

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs013.snc6/166393_10150094519184511_506839510_5950820_4614924 _n.jpg

Burned the crap out of my hand plugging in a battery charger with a bad plug.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs255.snc6/180315_10150094582039511_506839510_5951628_2050550 _n.jpg

Dragonslayer
01-31-2011, 05:30 AM
OUCH!!!! Sami looks good tho. :038:

Diesel_Sierra
02-05-2011, 10:57 AM
Hey mate,

i Would be really keen to see the pics on the first page that dont show anything you could do about it or are they uploaded somewhere else?

cheers
Dale

RalphDogg
02-05-2011, 11:19 AM
Whats left to finish on the pig? If you are keeping it get the spidertrax tcase arm please

OverkillZJ
02-05-2011, 03:06 PM
Hey mate,

i Would be really keen to see the pics on the first page that dont show anything you could do about it or are they uploaded somewhere else?

cheers
Dale

Dale - read the first line of the post: [quote]2011 EDIT! - I don't know why the link pics changed and won't show, but you can view them all at http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...0&l=4dc64f8927 (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=29983&id=506839510&l=4dc64f8927) [/guote]

OverkillZJ
02-05-2011, 03:08 PM
Whats left to finish on the pig? If you are keeping it get the spidertrax tcase arm please

I'll beef it up. Have a spare one too. Probably going to keep it til' it sells, still needs a lil' more work here and there, I really want to build the ZJ up.

RalphDogg
02-05-2011, 10:53 PM
I give you props, more thank 1 offroad rig is a comittment

OverkillZJ
02-06-2011, 02:36 AM
Addiction is a better word!

justin'sbig7
02-06-2011, 09:28 AM
THIS ^ absolute truth.

gonecheenin
04-01-2011, 10:53 PM
Man I dig that rig. Good to see your gonna be getting back out again soon Brother!


THIS ^ absolute truth.


Yeah - no kidding!

OverkillZJ
04-12-2011, 11:11 AM
Priorities change... http://www.pgh-offroad.com/forum/showthread.php?16796-Suzuki-Samurai-on-35-s-coil-springs-and-long-arms.-Cash-talks.&p=247715#post247715

To sum it up: I have the opportunity to buy the house I've been renting at a great rate, but must close within 3 weeks. Cash talks. I can always build / buy another rig, but being a homeowner is a hell of an opportunity I'm not passing up for a hobby rig.

Sloth_Fratelli
04-12-2011, 03:40 PM
so... your selling the zuk? i got $150 and first dibs :flipoff2:

limegreentj
04-12-2011, 05:57 PM
i didnt know you rented...definitely buy it man!!

OverkillZJ
09-08-2011, 01:19 PM
Let the bidding begin! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150660407155&ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649