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OverkillZJ
10-16-2008, 11:30 AM
This left me speechless http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3 (http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3)

Blacks were approached about "Obama's Policy's" but were really asked about Mccains policy's. They backed ever one of Mccains policy's simply because they thought they were Obama's.

The last woman interviewed even said she was glad that Obama had picked Sarah Palin as his running mate... WOW!

How can anyone be that ignorant?

TimMichaels
10-16-2008, 11:47 AM
Let's be honest though. How many white people will vote for McCain because Obama is black without knowing any real issues?

OverkillZJ
10-16-2008, 11:55 AM
I don't think colors even an issue, ignornace is! Hell, if color is the issue, it's even more ignorant.

Muzikman
10-16-2008, 12:03 PM
It's going to be that way and the fact that it shocks you...shocks me.

DMG
10-16-2008, 12:08 PM
This left me speechless http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3 (http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3)

Blacks were approached about "Obama's Policy's" but were really asked about Mccains policy's. They backed ever one of Mccains policy's simply because they thought they were Obama's.

The last woman interviewed even said she was glad that Obama had picked Sarah Palin as his running mate... WOW!

How can anyone be that ignorant?

And the good news here is that most of the people interviewed are way too stupid or unmotivated to get off the couch, hop in the blinged-out Hyundai, and get to the polls without being distracted by something shiny on the way. Most of the black people I know would be emberassed to be associated with those idiots.

DMG
10-16-2008, 12:11 PM
Let's be honest though. How many white people will vote for McCain because Obama is black without knowing any real issues?

Seriously, you need to stop bringing down whites/republicans/Americans every time another group proves how stupid/racist/violent they are. I am sure all the girls and 14 year old boys on Democratic Underground swoon when you do it but we have a little more common sense around here.

Find an argument that isn't a strawman diversion or STFU and admit you have nothing to add.

Wrecker
10-16-2008, 12:17 PM
Dave tell us how you really feel.

DMG
10-16-2008, 12:35 PM
Dave tell us how you really feel.

I guess I am still upset over you calling me fat. :flipoff2:

Muzikman
10-16-2008, 12:52 PM
I am sure there are plenty of white folks who are voting against Obama because of his race. whether you like it or not, there is still racism in the US, I will say however, I am sure race plays a much bigger role in Obama getting votes.

This is the same as women. You know damn well that if Clinton was in Obama's place that woman would be blindly voting for her as well.

You can say the same thing based on race, gender or religion.

I will say this, I do know a couple democrats who are staying home on election day because Obama is black.

Right or wrong, it's reality.

Wrecker
10-16-2008, 12:58 PM
Most racism is with older people. Stay home because he is black is more than likley an older generation thing. I hope that it keeps get less and less with each generation. The black people who are blindly voting are just voting for the first black president. I just wish he was more qualified.

Wrecker
10-16-2008, 01:01 PM
I guess I am still upset over you calling me fat. :flipoff2:

Quit whining and have a salad.:D

DMG
10-16-2008, 01:16 PM
Quit whining and have a salad.:D

Salad?! Thems fighting words!

Ronin152
10-16-2008, 01:18 PM
Well what did they expect when interviewing people from Harlem? The sample of people they talked to is clearly biased. Whether people like it or not there will be some people who either vote or don't vote for Obama because of his race.

OverkillZJ
10-16-2008, 01:19 PM
Salad?! Thems fighting words!

Make it a mans salad: more steak and fries than lettuce!

Muzikman
10-16-2008, 01:50 PM
Most racism is with older people. Stay home because he is black is more than likley an older generation thing. I hope that it keeps get less and less with each generation. The black people who are blindly voting are just voting for the first black president. I just wish he was more qualified.

That might be true to a point, but I think it has more to do with how and where you were raised.

sb406
10-16-2008, 03:06 PM
Most racism is with older people. Stay home because he is black is more than likley an older generation thing. I hope that it keeps get less and less with each generation. The black people who are blindly voting are just voting for the first black president. I just wish he was more qualified.

I agree.
What if Obama gets in and totally drops the ball? Do you think it will cause more racial prjudice against blacks in this country? Not trying to start a fight. Just trying to spark discussion.

DMG
10-16-2008, 03:08 PM
I agree.
What if Obama gets in and totally drops the ball? Do you think it will cause more racial prjudice against blacks in this country? Not trying to start a fight. Just trying to spark discussion.

No because expectations will be low from many people and the rest will make excuses for his failures. You can already see the news media making excuses for him.

BigDukeSix
10-16-2008, 04:51 PM
Agggg...Fat Republicans. Now we'll have a health care crisis. Oh, wait....

DMG
10-16-2008, 05:36 PM
Agggg...Fat Republicans. Now we'll have a health care crisis. Oh, wait....

I am a Libertarian, you tattooed freak.

jeepxj3
10-16-2008, 07:19 PM
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Tonito44/ThatsRacist.gif

BigDukeSix
10-16-2008, 07:50 PM
I am a Libertarian, you tattooed freak.


LMFAO Dave. Good one. I've been accused many times at work of being a national socialist, but I'm really a tree huggin' Democrat you know.....(extra periods for Matt....):flipoff2:

highlandercj-7
10-16-2008, 08:03 PM
The funny part is all the pricks that like him, always bring up race as a issue when they hear someone doesn't like him. His race is not a issue, his be-liefs and additude are. Another funny thing is if a white person votes against him because he's black it's racist but if a black person votes for him because he's black it's not! Pull your head out your azz hipocryts! it works both ways. How come only whites are considered racist?

BigDukeSix
10-16-2008, 08:11 PM
Known alot of black bigots have you? Or just see 'em on TV?

DMG
10-16-2008, 08:57 PM
LMFAO Dave. Good one. I've been accused many times at work of being a national socialist, but I'm really a tree huggin' Democrat you know.....(extra periods for Matt....):flipoff2:

I have never seen you hug a tree.. :flipoff2:

DMG
10-16-2008, 09:01 PM
Known alot of black bigots have you? Or just see 'em on TV?

There are a lot of black bigots. It is just not P.C. to point them out. If you looked into the background of Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson and Reverend Wright, you would find actions and statements that whites would not get away with if roles were reversed. White liberal guilt and the conception among many on the left that we live in a racist society has allowed this to happen.

BigDukeSix
10-17-2008, 06:33 AM
Well thank you David Duke for the class on bigotry.

sb406
10-17-2008, 07:08 AM
There are a lot of black bigots. It is just not P.C. to point them out. If you looked into the background of Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson and Reverend Wright, you would find actions and statements that whites would not get away with if roles were reversed. White liberal guilt and the conception among many on the left that we live in a racist society has allowed this to happen.

Amen.

Just think of the uproar there would be if there were "White music awards" or the "National Association for the Advancement of White People". It's BS. IMO, the victim card has been played way too much, but this is an entirely different debate. We'll leave that one for after the election......

DMG
10-17-2008, 09:57 AM
Well thank you David Duke for the class on bigotry.

Sorry, did my statement about white liberal giult hit a little too close to home?

SirFuego
10-17-2008, 09:59 AM
Amen.

Just think of the uproar there would be if there were "White music awards" or the "National Association for the Advancement of White People". It's BS. IMO, the victim card has been played way too much, but this is an entirely different debate. We'll leave that one for after the election......

On a flight a few weeks ago, I saw a black woman wearing a "Black Pride" shirt. I couldn't help but to think how badly that would have gone over if I wore a "White Pride" shirt...

DMG
10-17-2008, 10:00 AM
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Tonito44/ThatsRacist.gif

At least Emo Boy is continuing to bring his spot-on political commentary. Please start wearing a helmet when you ride that thing. :flipoff2:

HoodRN
10-18-2008, 06:43 PM
This left me speechless http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3 (http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3)

Blacks were approached about "Obama's Policy's" but were really asked about Mccains policy's. They backed ever one of Mccains policy's simply because they thought they were Obama's.

The last woman interviewed even said she was glad that Obama had picked Sarah Palin as his running mate... WOW!

How can anyone be that ignorant?

Two words. Public education.

HoodRN
10-18-2008, 06:48 PM
Let's be honest though. How many white people will vote for McCain because Obama is black without knowing any real issues?

Put Michael Steele on the ballot, I'll vote for him. Obama is a charismatic asshat,

TimMichaels
10-18-2008, 07:25 PM
Seriously, you need to stop bringing down whites/republicans/Americans every time another group proves how stupid/racist/violent they are. I am sure all the girls and 14 year old boys on Democratic Underground swoon when you do it but we have a little more common sense around here.

Find an argument that isn't a strawman diversion or STFU and admit you have nothing to add.

What in the hell are you babbling on about?

DMG
10-18-2008, 09:31 PM
What in the hell are you babbling on about?

Did you really fail to grasp my statement? Will someone explain please explain this to him?

TimMichaels
10-18-2008, 10:29 PM
Did you really fail to grasp my statement? Will someone explain please explain this to him?

Trying to pretend I'm stupid long enough doesn't make it so. Nor does having a different opinion than you make anybody stupid. Is that really so hard to grasp? Do you truly have such an inflated ego that you automatically assume I'm ignorant to the world just because I disagree with you?

Why in the hell would I "bring down whites?" I am white for Jeep's sake. Accusing me of such is frickin' moronic.

Anyway, I don't even know what Democratic Underground is. I assume some liberal forum? I do most of my political discussion in uhhhh collegiate debates so I can make the older girls swoon kay thanks. I know it perplexes you but I actually know what I talk about and make valid points. I'm sorry that your introverted view of the world doesn't allow you to take other perspectives into account. Because obviously if I say something you don't agree with I by default can't make any valid points, right? Learn how to make discussion instead of crying I'M RIGHT I'M RIGHT I'M RIGHT like a 10 year old. Your inabilities in discourse disgust me.

And to re-explain my initial comment since you decided to twist it into something that it was not: It is implied in the video that these people vote for Obama only because he is black and thus do not know actual facts. I actually concede that. Even if that's not true, I generally concede that many people will vote for him not knowing any real issues. But that works both ways. Do you really expect me to believe that every person that votes for McCain knows exactly what he stands for? To coincide with the implicit meaning of the video, I compare it to people voting for McCain simply due to racism against Obama. If you don't believe any truth to that then I urge you to take a trip up here to Clarion County and talk to locals. The ONLY political issues they can discuss are that a.) Obama is black and/or b.) Obama has Muslim heritage. The consensus then is that if we don't all vote for McCain Obama will a.) give all of our tax money (well, i actuality money we continue to borrow from China) to blacks and/or b.) promote terrorism. This is by no means an exaggeration in this area; up here it is fact. But yes on the flip side, people will vote for Obama with a total lack of understanding. Unfortunately the vast bulk of American voters perform their voting privelege with no true understanding of the issues at hand. But you can relate to that, no? No I suppose not since obviously I'm amongst that majority since I certainly don't understand politics in any way, shape, or form.

Anyway, I'm off to a kegger after a great Pens win.

DMG
10-18-2008, 10:52 PM
Trying to pretend I'm stupid long enough doesn't make it so. Nor does having a different opinion than you make anybody stupid. Is that really so hard to grasp? Do you truly have such an inflated ego that you automatically assume I'm ignorant to the world just because I disagree with you?

Why in the hell would I "bring down whites?" I am white for Jeep's sake. Accusing me of such is frickin' moronic.

Anyway, I don't even know what Democratic Underground is. I assume some liberal forum? I do most of my political discussion in uhhhh collegiate debates so I can make the older girls swoon kay thanks. I know it perplexes you but I actually know what I talk about and make valid points. I'm sorry that your introverted view of the world doesn't allow you to take other perspectives into account. Because obviously if I say something you don't agree with I by default can't make any valid points, right? Learn how to make discussion instead of crying I'M RIGHT I'M RIGHT I'M RIGHT like a 10 year old. Your inabilities in discourse disgust me.

And to re-explain my initial comment since you decided to twist it into something that it was not: It is implied in the video that these people vote for Obama only because he is black and thus do not know actual facts. I actually concede that. Even if that's not true, I generally concede that many people will vote for him not knowing any real issues. But that works both ways. Do you really expect me to believe that every person that votes for McCain knows exactly what he stands for? To coincide with the implicit meaning of the video, I compare it to people voting for McCain simply due to racism against Obama. If you don't believe any truth to that then I urge you to take a trip up here to Clarion County and talk to locals. The ONLY political issues they can discuss are that a.) Obama is black and/or b.) Obama has Muslim heritage. The consensus then is that if we don't all vote for McCain Obama will a.) give all of our tax money (well, i actuality money we continue to borrow from China) to blacks and/or b.) promote terrorism. This is by no means an exaggeration in this area; up here it is fact. But yes on the flip side, people will vote for Obama with a total lack of understanding. Unfortunately the vast bulk of American voters perform their voting privelege with no true understanding of the issues at hand. But you can relate to that, no? No I suppose not since obviously I'm amongst that majority since I certainly don't understand politics in any way, shape, or form.

Anyway, I'm off to a kegger after a great Pens win.


You make it very easy to pretend you are stupid when you claim to not understand my "babbling".

There is no denying you are extremely liberal and an Obama fan. Also, you suffer from white liberal guilt and assume the US is racist.

When someone posted an true story in which black people and Obama voters made themselves look foolish, you said this,

"Let's be honest though. How many white people will vote for McCain because Obama is black without knowing any real issues?"

Obviously, you could not defend the behavior of the people in the story so you attacked white people and McCain. You made this attack with no evidence whatsoever to back it up but apparently your need to protect and defend blacks and Obama is so compelling that you chose to put down your own race and most of the US because you had to say something.
Your statement was undeniably an accusation of racism and ignorance of the issues against whites and McCain voters. And it is a standard extreme left talking point at this time. Big surprise.

Wrecker
10-19-2008, 10:47 AM
Dave stop bickering with him. He does this stuff in collage. We all know how real life collage is.

HoodRN
10-19-2008, 11:12 AM
College is where one goes to escape real life. Some of us finish and move on, others hide there until retirement.

BigDukeSix
10-19-2008, 11:59 AM
Me don't do no "collage". Me a through and through Democrat. Me like fightin' too. Any retard theories from our resident RepubloHitlerjugend on that?

Wrecker
10-19-2008, 12:06 PM
Hey I think I peed on your porch last night

BigDukeSix
10-19-2008, 12:07 PM
Hey I think I peed on your porch last night


I saw a blood trail out there, you need a cork for that leak granny?

DMG
10-19-2008, 12:42 PM
Me don't do no "collage". Me a through and through Democrat. Me like fightin' too. Any retard theories from our resident RepubloHitlerjugend on that?

I will be happy to share a few theories on your wierdness, Rob. Where should I start?

Btw, what is a republohitlerjugend?

BigDukeSix
10-19-2008, 12:51 PM
I will be happy to share a few theories on your wierdness, Rob. Where should I start?

Btw, what is a republohitlerjugend?

I would love to hear your thoughts Dave.

Republican + Hitler youth= RepubloHitlerjugend.

Don't hurt yourselves goose stepping through Bridgeville while looking black bigots and boogey men at the voting polls in your bomber jackets and Doc Martens. :flipoff2:

XJchris98
10-19-2008, 05:20 PM
I would love to hear your thoughts Dave.

Republican + Hitler youth= RepubloHitlerjugend.

Don't hurt yourselves goose stepping through Bridgeville while looking black bigots and boogey men at the voting polls in your bomber jackets and Doc Martens. :flipoff2:

Dr. Martens arent made in the UK anymore... :asshat:

Wrecker
10-19-2008, 06:15 PM
Dr. Martens arent made in the UK anymore... :asshat:

And the point is?

BigDukeSix
10-19-2008, 07:37 PM
Dr. Martens arent made in the UK anymore... :asshat:


Oh, look who came up for air long enough to say something stupid? Tired of playing elephant walk with all the other douchebags in the frat house?

XJchris98
10-20-2008, 02:24 AM
hahaha.......:082:

92YJCBG
10-20-2008, 03:18 AM
Oh, look who came up for air long enough to say something stupid? Tired of playing elephant walk with all the other douchebags in the frat house?

hahaha. dear god.

BigDukeSix
10-20-2008, 08:04 AM
Just fawkin' with you for real, Chris.

TimMichaels
10-20-2008, 09:15 AM
You make it very easy to pretend you are stupid when you claim to not understand my "babbling".

There is no denying you are extremely liberal and an Obama fan. Also, you suffer from white liberal guilt and assume the US is racist.

When someone posted an true story in which black people and Obama voters made themselves look foolish, you said this,

"Let's be honest though. How many white people will vote for McCain because Obama is black without knowing any real issues?"

Obviously, you could not defend the behavior of the people in the story so you attacked white people and McCain. You made this attack with no evidence whatsoever to back it up but apparently your need to protect and defend blacks and Obama is so compelling that you chose to put down your own race and most of the US because you had to say something.
Your statement was undeniably an accusation of racism and ignorance of the issues against whites and McCain voters. And it is a standard extreme left talking point at this time. Big surprise.

I can understand your babble it's just that it is so profoundly stupid sometimes it's difficult to imagine that's even what you mean.

Anyway, it's like you completely failed to read my last post. I explained my whole comment since you decide to read so much into it. I'm not explaining it again so please go reread my last comment and try to let it sink into your introverted thick head. If you would have read it you would have seen that I gave you personal evidence of racism in the polls. Can I give you quantifiable evidence? No, but that's because when they do the preliminary polling they don't typically follow it up with "Is that decision because you are RACIST?????" I did however give you a very real life example, which should have pleased your butt buddies since they're complaining that I can't relate to the real world (for whatever reason.) Hell, this very message board has proven prejudice is a factor. See http://www.pgh-offroad.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7272 in which several members blast him for being Muslim (a fallacy anyway), some thinking he's actually from the Middle East, and a few drop hint about his color. Even that damn video so many here supported says something along the lines of "Can we really trust a leader with not 1, not 2, but 3 Muslim names?" Typical conservative spew.

Regardless, the true point you have now missed twice isn't an accusation of one side. Again, I concede the ignorance of many people who will vote for Obama while I only note the comparable ignorance of many who will not. Unfortunately the bulk of ALL voters are ignorant. Very few people who walk out of the polls next month could intelligently and legitimately explain their decision. Even though you think I'm stupid, I have good reason to vote for Obama and even though I disagree with you on many points I know you can give legitimate justification to vote McCain. And heck, even though I think it's a wasted vote my Dad can totally back up his reasoning to vote third party. That's the minority though. Most voters don't know the issues.

TimMichaels
10-20-2008, 09:23 AM
College is where one goes to escape real life. Some of us finish and move on, others hide there until retirement.

I'm actually on track to graduate early but thanks for your concern :041:

TimMichaels
10-20-2008, 09:26 AM
Dave stop bickering with him. He does this stuff in collage. We all know how real life collage is.

Assuming you meant college (I'm no artist afterall)... yes I do this stuff in college. I'm required to research politics for no less than 8 hours a week to maintain scholarships. I provided real life examples but as usual people just ignore parts of what I say when it makes too much sense. But anyway I guess I just don't know anything since I'm involved with it in college rather than from a job completely unrelated to politics.

DMG
10-20-2008, 09:36 AM
I can understand your babble it's just that it is so profoundly stupid sometimes it's difficult to imagine that's even what you mean.

Anyway, it's like you completely failed to read my last post. I explained my whole comment since you decide to read so much into it. I'm not explaining it again so please go reread my last comment and try to let it sink into your introverted thick head. If you would have read it you would have seen that I gave you personal evidence of racism in the polls. Can I give you quantifiable evidence? No, but that's because when they do the preliminary polling they don't typically follow it up with "Is that decision because you are RACIST?????" I did however give you a very real life example, which should have pleased your butt buddies since they're complaining that I can't relate to the real world (for whatever reason.) Hell, this very message board has proven prejudice is a factor. See http://www.pgh-offroad.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7272 in which several members blast him for being Muslim (a fallacy anyway), some thinking he's actually from the Middle East, and a few drop hint about his color. Even that damn video so many here supported says something along the lines of "Can we really trust a leader with not 1, not 2, but 3 Muslim names?" Typical conservative spew.

Regardless, the true point you have now missed twice isn't an accusation of one side. Again, I concede the ignorance of many people who will vote for Obama while I only note the comparable ignorance of many who will not. Unfortunately the bulk of ALL voters are ignorant. Very few people who walk out of the polls next month could intelligently and legitimately explain their decision. Even though you think I'm stupid, I have good reason to vote for Obama and even though I disagree with you on many points I know you can give legitimate justification to vote McCain. And heck, even though I think it's a wasted vote my Dad can totally back up his reasoning to vote third party. That's the minority though. Most voters don't know the issues.


So now you are accusing me of being stupid? I thought you just lectured me about that. Hypocrisy.

I read your last post explaining your comments, it was a little late and not altogether convincing. People who believe in racism and white privelege see it everywhere. Just like people who believe in ghosts see them all the time.

I can't think of anyone I know well who would not vote for someone simply because of race. When you look at the whole Obama picture, his race really is a pretty small part of it. You are the one who is hung up about race.

DMG
10-20-2008, 09:44 AM
Regardless, the true point you have now missed twice isn't an accusation of one side. Again, I concede the ignorance of many people who will vote for Obama while I only note the comparable ignorance of many who will not. Unfortunately the bulk of ALL voters are ignorant. Very few people who walk out of the polls next month could intelligently and legitimately explain their decision. Even though you think I'm stupid, I have good reason to vote for Obama and even though I disagree with you on many points I know you can give legitimate justification to vote McCain. And heck, even though I think it's a wasted vote my Dad can totally back up his reasoning to vote third party. That's the minority though. Most voters don't know the issues.

This makes a certain amount of sense. Keep in mind, I have voted Libertarian in every election since I have been old enough to vote. I am holding my nose and voting for McCain this year because I do not want Obama picking 2 or 3 SCOTUS justices and implementing more socialism.

HoodRN
10-20-2008, 09:49 AM
I'm actually on track to graduate early but thanks for your concern :041:

I'm not concerned in the slightest, but congratulations anyway.

Wrecker
10-20-2008, 09:51 AM
Dave and I are not butt buddies. I know for a fact that I am straight. And from Dave's reaction to the bar maid on Friday I am pretty sure he is. ( Even if I were gay, he is too fat.)

I have seen too many young people go through college and come out with know all attitude. What happens in college is mostly theory. Having politics and racism effect your work life is anything but theory. I have seen racism. I have had minories work under me. I have seem racism happen when talking about these people. I have gone out of my way to make sure it does not effect my opinion of them. I would not have a problem with a minority president. My problem is with a liberal black man that has not come clean with his true agenda and feelings. He does stand for the same United States that I do.

OverkillZJ
10-20-2008, 09:57 AM
Two words. Public education.

I have no issue with public education. I didn't exactly come out of there stupid. (Let the comments fly from my friends on that one!)

OverkillZJ
10-20-2008, 09:59 AM
Me don't do no "collage". Me a through and through Democrat. Me like fightin' too. Any retard theories from our resident RepubloHitlerjugend on that?

Duke, you suck at arguing :016:

OverkillZJ
10-20-2008, 10:05 AM
Me don't do no "collage". Me a through and through Democrat. Me like fightin' too. Any retard theories from our resident RepubloHitlerjugend on that?


This makes a certain amount of sense. Keep in mind, I have voted Libertarian in every election since I have been old enough to vote. I am holding my nose and voting for McCain this year because I do not want Obama picking 2 or 3 SCOTUS justices and implementing more socialism.


I had intended to vote Libertarian this election, I wish I had in the last, but Kerry creped me out (not as much as Obama.) But I agree, risking Obama getting elected isn't worth it.

Hmmm Liberian, I wonder how many folks here know what it actually stands for (No, Tim, I don't want a secluded academic rant about it.)

SirFuego
10-20-2008, 10:46 AM
I have no issue with public education. I didn't exactly come out of there stupid. (Let the comments fly from my friends on that one!)

In general, though, public education is a problem to an extent. It's not as big of a problem in PA and NY because teaching jobs generally seem to be pretty competitive, so the "best" candidates are usually pretty good.

In places like NC where population is booming, there is typically a huge shortage of teachers, so they will pretty much take anyone, and the public education system suffers. No I'm not saying that all teachers in such areas are bad -- I'm just saying that when you don't have competition for a job, the "ideal" candidate is often not in the mix to get hired (hmmm -- where else does this seem to be true?!?).

A lot of the public education comments are directed at inner-city schools. As much as I hate to say it, I can't think of a good way to fix it. Teachers don't want to teach in the inner-city schools -- and many of the "good" ones seem to get gobbled up by suburban schools (again, I'm not saying all inner-city teachers are "bad", I'm just making a generalization to get my point across). Throwing a ton of money at the problem to fund better technology, books, and after-school activities is a start, but how people act outside of school typically dictates how they will act in school. Teachers and counselors can only do so much. Parents can do a lot more.

OverkillZJ
10-20-2008, 10:50 AM
Teachers and counselors can only do so much. Parents can do a lot more.

Which is why I put more blame on the parents, than the school.

BigDukeSix
10-20-2008, 02:19 PM
Duke, you suck at arguing :016:

You're right. Must be that public school education and lack of college.

DMG
10-20-2008, 02:54 PM
Dave and I are not butt buddies. I know for a fact that I am straight. And from Dave's reaction to the bar maid on Friday I am pretty sure he is. ( Even if I were gay, he is too fat.)

I have seen too many young people go through college and come out with know all attitude. What happens in college is mostly theory. Having politics and racism effect your work life is anything but theory. I have seen racism. I have had minories work under me. I have seem racism happen when talking about these people. I have gone out of my way to make sure it does not effect my opinion of them. I would not have a problem with a minority president. My problem is with a liberal black man that has not come clean with his true agenda and feelings. He does stand for the same United States that I do.


That bar maid is f'ing amazing.

OverkillZJ
10-20-2008, 03:01 PM
Damn, I missed a hottie. I was too busy planting my face into a tree, and then the fender of my car. Not as fun as motorboating.

jeepxj3
10-21-2008, 11:49 AM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c202/Gracelander/ob.gif

92YJCBG
10-22-2008, 01:31 AM
http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq242/jimsojka/funny/obamawonwelcometoCanada.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w177/crazy_tigger/funny%20pics/emoobama.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p176/rnemovr/obama.jpg

I belive the last one DMG would make for his yard.

gonecheenin
10-22-2008, 05:27 PM
IMHO
Obama = Work long & hard for what you have & we'll make sure you have to give it to the lazy pc's of crap at home eating cheeseburgers & watching infomercials.


I'm not sure how I feel about McCain overall, & I'm pretty sure Palin was a bad selection with limited national experience & too many skeletons in her closet.
And I'm FAR from one who thinks the religious/conservative garbage the Republican party is constantly vomiting, should have anything to do with how our US goverment based heavily on seperation of church & state should behave.

But I'm voting for them because it scares the heck outta me thinking about what the democratically controlled Congress will be able to do/ruin with Obama following them around like a love sick puppy!


Black, Pink, Yellow, Purple, or Polkadot could matter less to me - If McCain were the minority race & Obama white I'd still vote for McCain assuming everything else the same


At least a Republican @ the helm of the VETO button has a chance to keep the Dem's socialist attitudes in check before we all become characters in a sequel to George Orwell's book Animal farm.



Just my 2 cents of course :popcorn2:

.J u s t i n
10-22-2008, 06:49 PM
Played the original audio clip in one of my classes today. Very interesting reaction from the class...

junker
11-02-2008, 11:18 AM
not a big fan of McCain but obama scares the hell out of me. he and the dems have made race a big part of this election. if they do win i think the backlash from all his affermitive action programs will set "race relations" back 30 years.spread the wealth around does appeal to many if they are on the recieving end. why work when uncle obama will make the rich support us. whos rich though. i'll bet all the dems who qualify as rich will leave themselves loopholes to avoid the tax hikes. republicans too. America is still the greatest nation on earth. if ya dont believe it go to a socialist country and see how you like it. i have. we can not stay the greatest without a strong military. our enemies will pounce at the first sign of weakness. russia's testing her missles again, irans trying to build nukes, bin laden's still sucking air. the list goes on. can't understand why any educated person would vote for obama. don't just listen to his words check his record. at least as much as you can most of it is sealed untill after the election. ever wonder why??

highlandercj-7
11-03-2008, 04:22 PM
Known alot of black bigots have you? Or just see 'em on TV?


HAHA my bad, I ment to say Hipocryt;)

nitrolegend
11-06-2008, 10:12 PM
I know people who did not vote for obama because he is black this is fact. I know because some are related to me. Before you say it yes im a redneck with 21 years of military service and a disabled vet. I was voting before most of you all where born.

DMG
11-06-2008, 10:34 PM
I know people who did not vote for obama because he is black this is fact. I know because some are related to me. Before you say it yes im a redneck with 21 years of military service and a disabled vet. I was voting before most of you all where born.

So 99% of people with poor spelling and puctuation, named James voted for Obama. but not because he is black? I feel better now.

OverkillZJ
11-07-2008, 03:10 AM
I know people who did not vote for obama because he is black this is fact. I know because some are related to me. Before you say it yes im a redneck with 21 years of military service and a disabled vet. I was voting before most of you all where born.


I thank you for your service, but at the same time, what you just said doesn't mean shit to me whatsoever.