One Ton TJ

[tjblair]

Well here it goes I got this d60 today, it's out of a 97 F350http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P2200238.jpg

It's not the year I was looking for but I couldn't pass up the deal. All I have gotten done so far it the tear down and I have the unwanted stuff cut off. It's going to be a while before I get around to putting it under the jeep but I guess it is a start. I know that a few of you have done the one ton thing already so any advice would be helpfull. Right now I am looking into cutting it down, so i have alot of reading to do. Again any advice would be helpfull, and thanks in advance.:039: :040:

[tjblair]

And yes, I know it upside down in the picture.

[Deadman 94 xj]

You should have got an 8.8
J/K lol

Are you planning a stretch?

[tjblair]

[quote=Deadman 94 xj;145573]You should have got an 8.8
:fu:

Yes I am planning a stretch but I want to get the axels built before I think about that. I still have a long arm kit to put on too.:023:

[Deadman 94 xj]

Cool. Take your time. Can't wait to see this beast..

[tjblair]

I should have the long arm on by the first event. I'm not too sure about the axels, but I think my axel guy found me a 60 for the rear. So like I said I got to get them cut down and built first.

[tjblair]

I am still up on the air on wether to shorten the axels or just run hummer wheels. The second option would be easier, but I'm not sure how crazy I am about the hubs sticking way out there just waiting to get hung up on a tree/rock. Any ideas on this?

[john00TJ]

i am setting mine up full width with the H1s.. i personally dont think the hubs will be too big a deal but steering is costly since you need highsteer that cleares the large backspacing and have to cut the factory TRe mounts off the knuckles...

dont get a 60 rear find a 14bolt

[tjblair]

14b is easy to find and I like the double pinion bearings. I just think it hangs a little lower than a 60 and they are limited as far as gear selection. I am only running a 4 cyl and I think I am going to need to be in the sixes I hope to be running 39 or 40's. I am not sure I can get the gear I will need for a 14b. I will have to check on how deep a gear I can get for the 14b. I think I am kind of leaning twords full lenth axels though. I keep going back and forth, ahhhhhhhh I don't know.

[96greenxjjeep]

you know my number if you need help.

[96greenxjjeep]

i might be able to get my hands on a 60 or a 14 bolt rear i can check if you want.

[96greenxjjeep]

i see you got your wheels on your welder NICE!

[tjblair]

The highsteer is going to be another issue because I am using a ball joint axel. So I am going to have to weld on the highsteer. At least that is the only option I have heard of so far.

[Sycotik Skier]

hmmm i need one tons

[tjblair]

you know my number if you need help.

You may be getting a call. LOL

[Sycotik Skier]

eh i can help too if need be. I'm a good supervisor

[commando72]

You may be getting a call. LOL

Chris Miller, does most of what you will need done. He's also local in Butler.

Saved by Grace
Performance Modifications & Repairs, Machining, Transmissions, Transfer case, Axles, Engines, call 7242832059 or
cr.miller@zoominternet.net (cr.miller@zoominternet.net)

[tjblair]

Thanks, I'll check him out.

[Peccavi18]

Nice, another one comes to the darkside.
Lots of options there. Biggest thing is deciding whether or not you want full width or narrowed, to get started. In all honest narrowing the rear was a cinch, just swap hubs and buy the correct disk brake conversion parts, (the eldo calipers were the only hard to locate part). The front is a bit more involved, making sure you have clearances, narrowing a shaft, figuring out/ fitting front suspension, etc. Still not hard to do. It just depends on what rim you would like to run, how much extra you are willing to put into it, and if you are trying to stay legalish for driving on the street. Also where are you stretching front, rear, or both? What's the target WB? What front suspension you planning on running? I went abit overboard on mine and have to slow down and wait for funds to recoup before finishing. If I hadn't blown the d44 I would have done the same as you are and just built stuff and stockpiled parts for a massive wrench fest.
Also I just looked briefly and I didn't see anything over a 5.38 listed for d60 or 14bolt. I may have missed it but that was as high as my quick search located.

Here is a link of builds with a ton of info. Warning though, they may give you a few ideas for crazier shit to try. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=578353

If you have any questions my number is in my profile, and if I don't answer leave a msg.

[tjblair]

Thanks alot for the info. I don't think I was planing on stretching the front. I am going to be running a BDS long arm kit. I am still looking into what to do with the track bar location in the rear. But the main thing right not is to find what rear I want ( still undecided) and figure out the width ( still undecided) thanks again for the info.

[john00TJ]

I hope to be running 39 or 40's.




I don't think I was planing on stretching the front.



your going to have to stretch this thing silly to run 40s and be at a good wheel base for that size tires ...i am at around 103in on 38s

u actually have a lot of planing for this build ,the only thing you really know is that your using a 60 front ...Lol..

if you dont have the lift already id hold off till the axles where built and i could stretch it ..your going to want to move those tires away from the back of the fender

[tjblair]

I already am running PS front tube fenders, and I have already built jeeps using the same setup. By same set up I mean PS fenders and Bds long arm, but on stock axels with 37's. So I don't think I need to stretch the front. But you are correct I do have a lot of planing for this build. I have most of the long arm kit already and plan on having it on before the axels go under it. I know the guys at BDS pretty well, so when it comes time to strech the rear I plan on talking them into making me some custom longer arms for the rear. But again you are right, lots of planing. Infact it's giving me a headake already. LOL

[MF Steve!]

LMK how a BDS kit works with a 1-ton axle that has a miniature short side tube on the axle. I can't see that working out too well...

[tjblair]

I thought of that too. But like I said I couldn't pass up the deal, so I guess we will see.

[Krod]

You should be good to cut the casting a bit on the drivers side to weld a link bracket/truss on the remaining tube. Truss it, brace it, and you'll be fine.

[dan58]

I would definitely not cut it down. Leave it full width. You can also run H2s with 5.5" of backspacing. What about 2 sets of wheels/tires? Skinny for the road, a little meat for the trails.
I would also go with a 60 in the back. A 14b will only go to a 5.38. You may want to go with 5.86s with a 4 banger (just search www.ringpinion.com). It's not rocket science to bore the 60 spindles. Heck, Adam Gates has one that's already bored. I think he only wanted $150 for it.
Stock wb is going to be all sorts of scary with 40s. You will really want to stretch it a bit.

[tjblair]

Well I got the rear d60 to match the front,:040: but I don't think I will have them ready to go in until next summer. So in the mean time, it's build time this weekend. I got a BDS 4.5in long arm kit, Im going with the shocks from the 6.5in kit to get some more droop.:nod: also Im putting it the sye kit and a tereflex 2wd low shift kit as well.:gear_angry: I will also be putting an aussie locker in the front. Lets see how long it takes me to break that axel.:104: LOL I also have some nice new BDS rock sliders to install. It's going to be a long weekend,:icon_hang: but Im looking foward to getting this thing up in the air and armored up. I can't wait for friday. I'll make sure to take some before and after pics to post.

[96greenxjjeep]

ill be there saturday

[tjblair]

Right on!

[aman-fred]

heck yes

[tjblair]

I got a head start today and got the rock sliders installed, they look sweet. Sorry no pics yet I also got the tcase pulled and all ready for the SYE and the 2wd low that will be here Friday. Still can't wait to get started on the long arm kit this weekend. :040:

[tjblair]

I got some pics of the rock sliders and stuff:109:
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3250001.jpg

I got the belly pan all trimmed up and and straightened out a 12lb sledge works wonders. It just needs a coat of por15:045: and it's ready to go.



http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3260006.jpghttp://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3260005.jpg
More pics to come this weekend:040:

[96greenxjjeep]

sweet dude

[skeebs]

I've been following this thread & I'm jealous :(
I'm happy for you though. :p: Lucky Dog!
Nice work tjblair.
Do you mind me asking, what'd you pay for those rock sliders? I've been looking, but I don't have the $ to make a buy just yet....hopefully by the end of the year, maybe a Christmas/Birthday present to myself.

[tjblair]

They are around $400

[tjblair]

Here are some before shots.
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3260010.jpg


http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3260009.jpg

Got the belly pan all painted, POR15 is awsome stuff.:112:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3260007.jpg

[Deadman 94 xj]

Looks good man! Did you get any of the POR on you? I wore gloves but neglected to wear long sleeves. I had that shit all over my arms for two weeks!

[tjblair]

It is nice to work on a lift. better that layingin the driveway.:smirk:
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3260011.jpg


I got all the lower link brackets cut off and ground down. Plasma cutter is the way to go. Lop off the bulk of the bracket,
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3260014.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3260015.jpg

then I used an air chisel to get it a little closer to the frame and then grind from there. I am pleased with the out come.:tongue:
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3270017.jpg
little more POR15 and it looks like the bracket was never there. then I switched to the tcase. Installed the Teraflex 2wd low shift kit and the short shaft.:109: The 2wd low kit is pretty slick and easy to install. I think it will be great to have on the trail being locked in the rear I don't think I will use 4wd low near as much. Plus now that I will be locked in the front too, it will be nice to have the ability to pop it into 2wd low in a tight turn and back into 4wd low when I need it. I think it will also save alot of wear and tear on the front axel.:045:
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3270018.jpg
I will have more pics tomorow I will keep yinz posted.:gear_happy2:

[tjblair]

Looks good man! Did you get any of the POR on you? I wore gloves but neglected to wear long sleeves. I had that shit all over my arms for two weeks!
no I learned my lesson with that stuff before, but FYI rubbing alcohol takes it off, if you get to it in time, if not you better make it a good design because you are living with it for a while.:040:

[Deadman 94 xj]

It is nice to work on a lift. better that layingin the driveway.:smirk:









Yeah, too bad we all don't have the boss's shop to use...:overkill:

[tjblair]

You would use it if you could too, don't be haten

[Deadman 94 xj]

no I learned my lesson with that stuff before, but FYI rubbing alcohol takes it off, if you get to it in time, if not you better make it a good design because you are living with it for a while.:040:


A last minute drunken decision to go out side and coat the underbody of your jeep, at night, with a paint brush in one hand and a bottle or two of beer in the other will do that to you. :033:

Edit: Thank god I'm getting new shocks LOL

[Barillms]

No need to cut it down man. I'm doing full widths with H1s.
High steer on a ball joint, welding? Those better be some professional welds... And I still wouldn't trust it. Actially, with Chevy one ton TREs flipped on top puts the tie rod up really high. The cost of high steer just isn't worth it. Just flip it on top the stock knuckle.. It's plenty high. Once you rebuild that axle.. You'll be $1200 deep, that's using stock parts! You can avoid having to fab a truss if you go with a 3 link.

When you mount the drivers side coil spring mount, there isn't a lot of room. So you gotta be careful when you cut away the cast collar to make room. Just think it out and plan ahead. Also, you might need to weld to cast.. This is different process and can be done a few different ways. Really the only hang up will be the drivers side coil mount.. Everything else is pretty straightforward. Good luck!
Ballistic Fabrication has these 3-in-1 brackets that are only $50.. They're hands down, by far the cheapest coil/shock/LCA bracket on the market.

[mxg342]

Does the 2wd mod change the Tcase ratio at all?

You may want to think about a flipped 300 at some point.

Dan's comment on 5.86's would put you back to an equivalent stock ratio.

[tjblair]

Does the 2wd mod change the Tcase ratio at all?

You may want to think about a flipped 300 at some point.

Dan's comment on 5.86's would put you back to an equivalent stock ratio.

No it's just a new shift fork and selector ratchet.

[tjblair]

I had seen the balistic fab brackets and plan on using them but I'm still doing the planing it's going to be a while before I get to working on the axels need more $

[tjblair]

[QUOTE=mxg342;15037

You may want to think about a flipped 300 at some point.

I would like to go with an atlas in the future, hopefully

[96greenxjjeep]

no I learned my lesson with that stuff before, but FYI rubbing alcohol takes it off, if you get to it in time, if not you better make it a good design because you are living with it for a while.:040:

yea dude your fenders, that sucked it looked like i was turning black haha

[mxg342]

No it's just a new shift fork and selector ratchet.

oh ok.




I would like to go with an atlas in the future, hopefully

That would be pretty sweet. And it makes sense by the time you'd build a 300 with hd outputs, 4:1, and flip, you might as well just buy an atlas.

Good luck this weekend.

[tjblair]

NEW UPDATE
First off I have to thank all of the help I had. Thanks to Jack (Stumpjumper) Ben (96greenxjjeep) and Michael. I would not have gotten half as far as I did without their help, thanks again.:056:
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3280026.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3280027.jpg

The day started off bad, because when I went to install the New Aussie Locker I found out that one of my carrier bearings was completly toasted:088:
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3270023.jpg

Good thing I had some new ones hiding in the tool box. So I pressed on the new bearings and proceded to put in the locker. Here it is :035:
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3270025.jpg
We got the tcase in and link pocket rails on and bellypan back on.:038:
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3270024.jpg

We then got the rear suspeneion all buttoned up, holy crap it has some droooooooop now.:unibrow:
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3280028.jpg

So then we moved on to the front, same story there, droops more than an old fat lady's fun bags:026:
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3280030.jpg

so then I started welding on some gussets,skids,and lengthining the axel end sway bar mounts. Again I am pleased with the outcome.:103:
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3280035.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3280034.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3280033.jpg
I am going to finish it up tomorow so I hope to have some after pics for you guys. Again thanks Jack, Ben, and Michael for all of the help. I couldn't have done this so fast without you guys.:039:

[tjblair]

Well we got her all finished up:biggrin: this thing is sick. It only sits about 2in higher than before, but holy F*** it has so much droop it is insane.:101: I have to thank my pit crew again, you guys are awsome.:icon_pray: And we built one kick ass rig, I cant wait to test her out on the trail.:unibrow:I got some more pics for everyone, the first one it's stll on the lift and the rest are us testing out the flex on the rocks beside the shop. Or as you all say poser pics, LOL:005: but whatever I had to give it a test. I couldn't be happier with how it turned out.:040:
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3280038.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3280044.jpg

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http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P3290057.jpg
The pictures don't really do it any justice, but what do you guys think?

[Deadman 94 xj]

Looks good. What is that bungee set up you have on your brake line? I need it.

[tjblair]

It's just a spring. Its not part of the kit, but I have seen other kits do the same thing. so I got springs from tractor supply and copied it. workes great to keep the brake line out of the way, and it lets it have the line if it needs it:023:

[Deadman 94 xj]

Perfect! thanks. The jeep looks great man. Should hold up real good this summer.

[tjblair]

Thanks man, I can't wait to try it out.

[skeebs]

That's a sweet looking set up man, great job guys :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[tjblair]

Thanks man!

[Sycotik Skier]

i bet it feels pretty damn good to finally get to put long arms on your jeep instead of someone else's. it looks awesome nice work Jeff

[tjblair]

LOL yah it's nice to finally get to put this awsome kit on my own jeep. And thanks for the compliments on the work, even though I did the welding and had the expierience of installing many of these kits, I had alot of help and could not have done it without the help of friends.:040:

[tjblair]

Also doing so many other jeeps with the same kit, and talking with other friends, as well as the awsome guys at BDS gave me the confidence to try some diferent stuff with the kit and not just installing it exactly by the directions. Not really huge changes but I think they will be worth the little extra planing and time to kind of make it my own.:icon_keel:

[stumpjumper]

The jeep turned out great cant wait to see it perform on the trails. Im sure I will be needing your help someday when I get enuf $ to long arm mine, just as long as your labor is as cheap as mine - Taco Bell and Monsters. haha

[tjblair]

The jeep turned out great cant wait to see it perform on the trails. Im sure I will be needing your help someday when I get enuf $ to long arm mine, just as long as your labor is as cheap as mine - Taco Bell and Monsters. haha

You know it will.:p:

[jeepcrazy02]

great looking jeep..how does it ride on the road(if you drive it on the road)...i am looking to do this to mine jeep..I might be asking alot of question...

[DMG]

Looks great, man!

[tjblair]

great looking jeep..how does it ride on the road(if you drive it on the road)...i am looking to do this to mine jeep..I might be asking alot of question...

Thanks, it drives great on the road. It only has about 4 1/2in of up travel witch should be plenty on the road, and all droop off road. Other than real tight turns in 4wd can you tell the front Aussie locker is there, but that's why I put in the 2wd low kit in.

[tjblair]

Looks great, man!

Thanks Dave!

[jeepcrazy02]

Thanks...tjblair....so you would recommend this...I am trying to get a better ride on road but have the handling offroad....

[tjblair]

Like I said it drives great on the road, and though I have not hit the trails with mine yet. I have seen many jeeps I have installed this kit on on the trail and IMO you will be hard pressed to find a better performing kit, or a better company to deal with. So yah it's a big investment but I would dedinitly recomment this kit. BDS makes great stuff and you don't have to go long arm they make many kits. I have installed most of them, and they all peform great. www.bdssuspension.com check them out

[Sycotik Skier]

i love my bds suspension and their warranty is one of the best out there. speaking of BDS I love their new ad in the mags with the jeep up side down

[jeepcrazy02]

ok thanks guys for the info.

[Sycotik Skier]

mine are leaves but if you are unaware of their warranty. it's basically you break it, it gets replaced free no questions asked as long as you are the original purchaser of the BDS stuff

[SirFuego]

Looks great! Get some limit straps on that pup to protect your shocks and (I'm guessing) to prevent your rear coil from popping out.

[tjblair]

the rear coils can't pop out I made a simple metal disc that bolts to the spring perch to hold it in place. It can spin but can't lift at all. I may put straps on the front once I get the one tons under there but I don't think that little 30 wieghs enough to hurt the shocks by pulling down on them. We will see I may do somthing. I just want to get it muddy. Thanks for the compliments.:gear_happy2:

[mbg]

Looks real good Jeff! Bet you can't wait to go try it out. Everytime I take mine out it still impresses me how much flex there is on those suspensions. Wise investment with the LCA skids too. I know mine have saved my mounts many times. And thanks again for all the work on my lift too.

[tjblair]

Looks real good Jeff! Bet you can't wait to go try it out. Everytime I take mine out it still impresses me how much flex there is on those suspensions. Wise investment with the LCA skids too. I know mine have saved my mounts many times. And thanks again for all the work on my lift too.
Something else I found was that gusset for the pass side upper link mount. I showed a pic of it earlier in this thread. it is easily made or check Zone offroad prod thats where I got it, but It definitly ads some needed strength there. its just a simple weld on plate.
Now we can have the battle of th long arm kits this summer, yours 6 1\2in mine the 4 1\2in. Bring it on:fplasma: lol see you in june.:003:

[mbg]

Something else I found was that gusset for the pass side upper link mount. I showed a pic of it earlier in this thread. it is easily made or check Zone offroad prod thats where I got it, but It definitly ads some needed strength there. its just a simple weld on plate.
Now we can have the battle of th long arm kits this summer, yours 6 1\2in mine the 4 1\2in. Bring it on:fplasma: lol see you in june.:003:

That gusset is nice too. Also, make sure you check the integrity of your rear upper link mounts, because the the pass rear welds broke on mine from the increased flex of the suspension. I'll be ready !!:jeepxj3:

[tjblair]

Didn't I weld those back on? I can't remember. I see to many jeeps. If so I hope my welds are still holding.:036:

[mbg]

Yup, you did. No problem since.

[tjblair]

Yup, you did. No problem since.
Damn I'm good:043:

[96greenxjjeep]

i cant believe how much flex its got looks really good man.

[tjblair]

Pictures aren't as impressive as standing next to it, huh?

[96greenxjjeep]

yes this is true and how good it rides really.. im impressed

[tjblair]

Rides like a cadilac driving on a cloud.:gear_grin:lol

[Deadman 94 xj]

I think your head is beginning to swell :overkill:

[tjblair]

Yup:046:

[96greenxjjeep]

it does haha

[skeebs]

I think your head is beginning to swell :overkill:
Both of em :slywink:

[tjblair]

both of em :slywink:haha:031:

[96greenxjjeep]

nice

[Sycotik Skier]

battle of the long arms? what about my leaves? Am I not invited to wheel with you guys at the outback adventures now?:disgust:

[tjblair]

battle of the long arms? what about my leaves? Am I not invited to wheel with you guys at the outback adventures now?:disgust:

you are to damn loud:042:



J/k we will get ya stuck:s-shock:

[mbg]

There is always room for the Renegade! We'll make it battle of the BDS's.

[tjblair]

There is always room for the Renegade! We'll make it battle of the BDS's.

There ya go

[Sycotik Skier]

if it's too loud you're too old. I got a couple things i need to get done but i think i can give ya a run for ya money.

[tjblair]

Haha, I guess we'll see. This is going to be a great summer.:026: did you try out the snake trail yesterday Brent?:unibrow:

[Sycotik Skier]

No we didn't head out to eau claire. I'm laid off from one of my jobs and cash is a problem.

[tjblair]

Oh I say the pics Andy posted and thought yinz were out there.

[Sycotik Skier]

na that's from a little local spot. that was a new trail we made through a rock garden. If I get back to work (which I should be shortly) i'll finally get rid of my stupid carb and who knows. I might have new tires for this summer before the first event

[brent66]

dang jeff thing looks really good cant wait till i get back from iraq and do that to mine ill stop in and see you when i come home for my 4 days probly april 13TH i got tires bumper new winch and waiting on my sliders

[tjblair]

Cool see ya then.

[80glasscj]

good job jeff. you know that there is going to be a few problem areas right. the rear sway bar links are going to hang down a little low. i just got done straightening out mine after my trip to rausch creek. also the axle will be sitting to the drivers side a good bit because of the track bar. and last the front sway bar when connected will be up a little to high. i think this is causing some bump steer with mine. but i`m a fan of the lower ride height i hated jumping in with the 37s and the 6 in. springs.

[Sycotik Skier]

80glass cj. was that your TJ with tube fenders front and rear sittin on 35" MTR's on carson street saturday night?

[tjblair]

Thanks Steve, I have already taken care on those problem areas. I removed the rear sway bar compleatly and all though I thought it would cause some issues, on the road I. can't even tell it isn't there. As far as the rear track bar I redrilled the relocation bracket a little lower and the axel is now centered. And I have not noticed any bump steer on any other promlems with the front, yet time will tell. Thanks for the complements Steve, hope to see you at Eau Claire soon.:038:

[80glasscj]

80glass cj. was that your TJ with tube fenders front and rear sittin on 35" MTR's on carson street saturday night?

yep thats mine. i`ve been running the 35s mainly around town, then putting the 37s on when i`m headin out wheelin.


Thanks Steve, I have already taken care on those problem areas. I removed the rear sway bar compleatly and all though I thought it would cause some issues, on the road I. can't even tell it isn't there. As far as the rear track bar I redrilled the relocation bracket a little lower and the axel is now centered. And I have not noticed any bump steer on any other promlems with the front, yet time will tell. Thanks for the complements Steve, hope to see you at Eau Claire soon.:038:

i thought about taking mine off too, but i still want that when i`m in the trails. i think it`s beneficial to keep mine on. i think my rear track bar is a lot different than yours, so i don`t know if i would be able to do that to mine.

[CESCO]

i thought about taking mine off too, but i still want that when i`m in the trails. i think it`s beneficial to keep mine on. i think my rear track bar is a lot different than yours, so i don`t know if i would be able to do that to mine.[/quote]

good idea on leaving them on... I've seen you in some off camber stuff:gear_lol2:

[tjblair]

I still have the sway bar and links they are easy to shorten but I want to see how it goes down the trail before I bother to modify. I don't know if I'll need it but we will see

[80glasscj]

whats up brian ? when we were at rausch i didnt even notice that my rear sway bar got totally jacked into my lower link. i spent a couple hours trying to get it all straitened and back on right.

[CESCO]

hey steve, not to high jack a thread but that sucks about your sway bar.

so jeff do you think you can make it through the summer with the stock axles... keep off the skinny pedal

[tjblair]

We will see,:gear_wink2: I have spares if I need them.:023: Let's hope I don't have to use them.

[tjblair]

Can't wait to get the 60's under there and not worry about breaking those tiny axels, but that is going to take some time.......and money.

[CESCO]

i am thinking about putting a 60 under the front of mine.. not sure what to do

[tjblair]

Yah I heard you keep breaking those d44 chrome mollys like toothpicks. LOL:101:

[aman-fred]

Here's to the hard work and the brake line spring. And stealing your bosses lift for the weekend

:023:

Heres to your front axle :popcorn2: lol

[tjblair]

Heres to your front axle :popcorn2: lol

Does that mean you think I am going to pop an axel?

[aman-fred]

....don't worry I have spares:flipoff2:see you on the trail!

[80glasscj]

Does that mean you think I am going to pop an axel?


it`s not if it`s when.

[CESCO]

Yah I heard you keep breaking those d44 chrome mollys like toothpicks. LOL:101:

I've broke a few. going to try warn shafts this time around.

[tjblair]

it`s not if it`s when.

I agree, but let's see how long I can make them last. I managed to make the rear axels last through 3 events before I broke one.

[aman-fred]

I agree, but let's see how long I can make them last. I managed to make the rear axels last through 3 events before I broke one.


Still having a hard time with that. I broke with 32's that measured 30.25!

The new jeep has a 8.8. I can't wait to get rid of it. stupid C clips.

[Deadman 94 xj]

I beat the living piss out of my old cherokee D35 on 33's and never broke. Learn how to drive!

[Deadman 94 xj]

The new jeep has a 8.8. I can't wait to get rid of it.

You might want to do some research and rethink that statement.


http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?t=371713

[Krod]

You might want to do some research and rethink that statement.


http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?t=371713



He probably means 8.25 and either doesn't know the difference, or needs to read the link you posted :024:

[Sycotik Skier]

or he's being Andy and knows the difference. He's just trying to get Jeff fired up. it is an 8.8

[Deadman 94 xj]

I would just hate to see somebody waste a perfectly good axle...:overkill:

[tjblair]

or he's being Andy and knows the difference. He's just trying to get Jeff fired up. it is an 8.8
Oh no he's not dragging me into that argument again. Everyone knows how I feel, and my opinion has not changed. But I agree with Deadman I think he needs to learn how to drive.:finger: I made those axels last a long time 3 events the first year I worked for Meridian, and then i put in the lockrite and broke the axel at the third event last year all with stock shafts on 35's. I am not trying to say a d35 is strong by any means, just trying to say that if you are easy on them and are a compident driver that you can make them last.:001: Although I am not a fan of the 8.8 I would not swap it out simply because it is an 8.8.

I am truely more worried ablut the fronts though.

[Deadman 94 xj]

It doesn't matter. You'll be on those 60s at some point. Have fun and wheel!!! If you break we'll all be there to help out.

I might be the one who needs help this time :033:

[aman-fred]

Your right that was uncalled for.

Don't worry i know about the 8.8

[tjblair]

It doesn't matter. You'll be on those 60s at some point. Have fun and wheel!!! If you break we'll all be there to help out.

I might be the one who needs help this time :033:

I'll bring the tools, and I'll make sure to bring a 1/4in 12pt this time. :109:

[Deadman 94 xj]

Your right that was uncalled for.

Don't worry i know about the 8.8

There's a thick line between webwheelin and being out there. We all get caught up in the BS every now and then :icon_pidu:

[tjblair]

Also I put on a cherry bomb today because the old stock muffler was junk and was tapping my new upper link. The little four popper actueally sounds pretty damn good. I thought it was going to be a lot louder than it is. It kinda sounds like a pissed off weedeater.

[Sycotik Skier]

Don't worry jeff I carry tools too and I've gotten pretty good at installing and removing lock rights

[tjblair]

Me too

[tjblair]

Took the heep out for a test today. The new suspension works great:040: the front Locker is awsome offroad, and you cant even tell it is there on the road:o The 2wd low kit is the sh*t you can shift between 2wd low and 4wd low on the fly you dont even have to take it out of gear, just let out of the throttle a little and shift. I drove around all day in 2wd low untill I needed the front digging then just pop it in. By far I would say this is the best $250 I spent and I would suggest this mod to everyone with a 231 tcase.:nod: Here are some pics of the first run.:drool:


http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P4050060.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P4050061.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P4050059.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P4050067.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P4050063.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P4050064.jpg

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/tjblair/P4050071.jpg

[96greenxjjeep]

i cant believe how far your jeep has come since i first started hanging around
****ing amazing

[stumpjumper]

NICE! Wish I could've gone on the first test ride with ya. Definitely be there next time. :118: