Gun Control Thread

[2002wranglerX]

And this morning there was another shooting at a New Jersey police station. I fear we are doomed in this fight, and I have to admit (tinfoil on) something seems very fishy and convenient to a grabbers cause as of late.

he grabbed a cop's gun while he was being processed.

[justin'sbig7]

And this morning there was another shooting at a New Jersey police station. I fear we are doomed in this fight, and I have to admit (tinfoil on) something seems very fishy and convenient to a grabbers cause as of late.

More info after reading the article as opposed to hearing the newscast..
Apparently the man was under arrest and got free of the officers, managed to obtain a firearm and there you have it.

Newscast made it sound like a random psycho walked in and started shooting unexpectedly

[2002wranglerX]

here's another gem from the bill

· Prohibits the transfer of “assault weapons.” Owners of other firearms,
including those covered by the NFA, are permitted to sell them or pass them to
heirs. However, under Feinstein’s new bill, “assault weapons” would remain with
their current owners until their deaths, at which point they would be forfeited
to the government.

[pittim]

And this morning there was another shooting at a New Jersey police station. I fear we are doomed in this fight, and I have to admit (tinfoil on) something seems very fishy and convenient to a grabbers cause as of late.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...e-station?lite

Looks like cops shouldn't have guns either.


"A violent struggle occurred while the suspect was being processed," Deputy Chief David Harkins said. The man was able to grab a gun and then opened fire."

[Super Scout]

This is the decay of society I feel bad for kids growing up today. The results of the election and other issues have seriously effected my desire to have kids, it makes me sad. The America they will grow up in will be vastly different than it is today.
I agree Justin, tin foil hat and hall, there is something very timely about these shootings....

[joshs1ofakindxj]

Every great society falls. We already have our own version of the Roman Colosseum where we mock and publicly humiliate our less fortunate citizens. It's called American Idol.

[HoodRN]

here's another gem from the bill

· Prohibits the transfer of “assault weapons.” Owners of other firearms,
including those covered by the NFA, are permitted to sell them or pass them to
heirs. However, under Feinstein’s new bill, “assault weapons” would remain with
their current owners until their deaths, at which point they would be forfeited
to the government.

If it comes to that, they may get dredged up from where they sank during the river pirate incident. At that point they go black market.

[HoodRN]

I don't think SeaHag's proposed legislation will pass intact, if it passes at all. Any sort of confiscation process is probably out, as a significant portion of the citizenry will likely react violently. Similar legislation passed in Canada about 12 years ago, costing the Canucks billions. Their compliance rate was around 28%. A conservative PM was elected and the whole mess was repealed. For the tinfoil hat-here-comes-the-UN-troops-crowd, don't worry. If that happens there will be LOTS of weapons lying around.

[Azzy]

But it is a starting point for "reasonable concessions" and "compromise".

They compromise like a fox eying up a hen.. should I eat the whole thing or just your head?

[Azzy]

FOAC-pac.org has toold to keep up on your reps, including searches for their votes on key legislation and links to the bills, without having to jump all over the state website.

We are working on getting a lot mroe re-vamped, as we were in the midst of getting our online engine running a tad cleaner when this all hit.

[HoodRN]

But it is a starting point for "reasonable concessions" and "compromise".

They compromise like a fox eying up a hen.. should I eat the whole thing or just your head?

I'm not suggesting compromise. I say resist, don't give an inch. Time is on our side anyway. The low-information voter, and the politicians pandering to them, have an attention span measured in sound bites. They've already moved on. Unless there is another "incident"...

[DMG]

he grabbed a cop's gun while he was being processed.

That is a whole different gun control issue.

[Super Scout]

Pick up the phone and call this asshole as well
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...dern-firearms/

[Azzy]

I'm not suggesting compromise. I say resist, don't give an inch. Time is on our side anyway. The low-information voter, and the politicians pandering to them, have an attention span measured in sound bites. They've already moved on. Unless there is another "incident"...

Word is the Pres has a mag capacity limit bill ready to go, which is the "middle ground", I suppose. Because delegaing us to buy substandard capacity mags (my standard capacity is not 10... in any of my firearms) will stop crime. Personally, I expect it to go like most things he wants. legislation will fail to pass, and then he will bypass with regulation and executive order. Or have it slipped into the "Save the puppies 2013 etc" bill.

[XJ_Sean]

[HoodRN]

Word is the Pres has a mag capacity limit bill ready to go, which is the "middle ground", I suppose. Because delegaing us to buy substandard capacity mags (my standard capacity is not 10... in any of my firearms) will stop crime. Personally, I expect it to go like most things he wants. legislation will fail to pass, and then he will bypass with regulation and executive order. Or have it slipped into the "Save the puppies 2013 etc" bill.

He can try whatever he wants to. I suspect he is underestimating gun owners, and overestimating the will of many of his democratic senators and representatives. If he attempts to regulate by executive order, they will pay the price. Compliance would be a joke in any case. It was 28% in Canada, and cost them billions before the govt. threw their hands up and abandoned it. It was also a large part of the liberals losing seats in the Canadian parliament.

[Super Scout]

Just keep calling boys, thats all we can do.

[DMG]

Join the NRA for $25, get a $25 Bass Pro Shops gift card.

Then use the $ you saved to join the 2nd Amendment Foundation.

[Dragonslayer]

[justin'sbig7]

Join the NRA for $25, get a $25 Bass Pro Shops gift card.

Then use the $ you saved to join the 2nd Amendment Foundation.

My wife joined yesterday and my kids will be becoming jr. Members after this pay.

(And she did it all by herself! Unsolicited by me)

[Azzy]

He can try whatever he wants to. I suspect he is underestimating gun owners, and overestimating the will of many of his democratic senators and representatives. If he attempts to regulate by executive order, they will pay the price. Compliance would be a joke in any case. It was 28% in Canada, and cost them billions before the govt. threw their hands up and abandoned it. It was also a large part of the liberals losing seats in the Canadian parliament.

I think that many of us underestimate the amount of gun owners and fudds out there willing to toss us under the bus in order to save their non military style mauser based hunting rifle.

You are right, no relenting, keep calling. DMG has it right, you can take you monies saved and join an org that will fight for your rights, and not just for political capitol. Second Amendmnet Foundation, Gun Owners of America (FOAC )... great choices.

I dumped my NRA membership after seeing how they do things and try and toss us a bone while destroying bills to win political favors or boost their collective ego.

[DMG]

Join the NRA for $25, get a $25 Bass Pro Shops gift card.

Then use the $ you saved to join the 2nd Amendment Foundation.

I forgot the link.

https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/s...gnID=bassprowy

[Azzy]

Might I also suggest the Firearms Policy Coalition, of which the 2A Foundation is a member: https://www.firearmspolicy.org/join/

[HoodRN]

Join any of them, join all of them. I spoke to my Rep. yesterday, the one that the opposition fears the most is the NRA.

[Mykal]

Leave it to a Marine to tell it like it is. Oorah Devil Dog.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/mari...eeps-you-free/

Senator Dianne Feinstein,
I will not register my weapons should this bill be passed, as I do not believe it is the government’s right to know what I own. Nor do I think it prudent to tell you what I own so that it may be taken from me by a group of people who enjoy armed protection yet decry me having the same a crime. You ma’am have overstepped a line that is not your domain. I am a Marine Corps Veteran of 8 years, and I will not have some woman who proclaims the evil of an inanimate object, yet carries one, tell me I may not have one.
I am not your subject. I am the man who keeps you free. I am not your servant. I am the person whom you serve. I am not your peasant. I am the flesh and blood of America.
I am the man who fought for my country. I am the man who learned. I am an American. You will not tell me that I must register my semi-automatic AR-15 because of the actions of some evil man.
I will not be disarmed to suit the fear that has been established by the media and your misinformation campaign against the American public.
We, the people, deserve better than you.
Respectfully Submitted,
Joshua Boston
Cpl,
United States Marine Corps
2004-2012