X2....The doors and hatch add no structural integrity to the jeep under normal conditions. Now if you chop the rear roof off, then you can start talking strength.
As steve said, they help keep the jeep from 'flexing' and tweaking, so yes, the doors and hatch might not bolt back up even...but its by no means going to fold like a taco.
For the record I don't plan on ever bolting the doors and hatch back on this jeep.
And there is no hood because the latch is broken and the radiator is half gone so the motor cools better without the hood.
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Your totally wrong ..the doors and hatch add to the structual integrity on all unibody cars ..the shell is mearly that just a shell ..a unibody setup is in no way strong enough on its own to take any kind of abuse without twisting and ripping ..the doors and hatch X out the door jams areas between the roof and rocker structure same goes for the rear hatch or gate ..it prevents the body from twisting itself apart to a degree ..youd be suprised how light weight the steel is on those posts and unibody rails ..anyway i have repaired more Xjs then i care to count and you couldnt pay me to ride in that set-up ...like i said before i hope nobody gets hurt
Well I have been wheeling it like I stole it for the past few months and no signs of the body twisting itself apart yet.
whats going to save you if it does flop ?? anyway i dont care what you do or how you do it nor do i care ..i just hope no one is hurt if that thing rolls
just dont roll it, problem solved
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" **** off you donkey fistting pedofile "
does anyone really try to roll ???? nope it just happens like shit
its his Jeep if he wants to wheel like that more power to him. Im sure he knows the risks
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PM from [B]Gibson[/B]:
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no i doubt it ..we were all young before ,i know i was and lived throught it however some i know didnt live cause of silly stuff someone should have told them ..either way your right its totally safe and there is nothing wrong with it ..
^ i get what your saying, but he might not
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PM from [B]Gibson[/B]:
" **** off you donkey fistting pedofile "
I know I'm late on this, but the hatch DOES add some serious structural integrity. Anything the doors add is negligible.
Ever flex out your rig an try to open the hatch? It won't, it's under stress.
I know you said you won't put them back on, but can you build some kind of X in the rig to help tie the roof into the unibody, crossing sides? (What I just said makes sense in my head, I swear!)
Your right by saying that jeep will 'twist'. Everything twists when put into torsion. Just because something has a frame or a unibody doesnt mean that it will twist more or less...it just determines where it twists. Look at the older style Ford trucks....their frames twist up more than the worlds strongest redneck twisting a pop can in half. If you put a cherokee...or any unibody rig onto a ramp...sure the hatch may not close perfectly as it does sitting on the ground, but likewise its not the sole factor keeping the whole body from twisting up like a pretzel. Your not going to get the 'ripping' kind of twist that you describe by simply driving it...or wheeling it. Sure things are going to flex and move around, but its not going to simply shear apart.
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Last edited by XJchris98; 01-27-2008 at 10:44 PM.
I'll consider putting an X across the back hatch area...
doesn't seem like a fiberglass hatch does much though.
I'm not saying the doors will hurt, believe me, but in a rollover they will just buckle out at the top (the same way they did when I twisted my unibody) - but if you want to be on the safe time, not like doors will hurt!
Either way man, seriously, put some kind of roll bar in there, preferably with an X in it to help the "frame" - but put something in there that will (literally) save your life.
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ya, thats what I started thinking after I posted...
Not sure about the doors and rear hatch adding any strength to an XJ but, I did notice a big difference ON road after I rebuilt the floor and rockers on mine. Before I wasn't able to notice any difference ON ROAD with or without the front sway bar connected. After the rebuild the body roll was really noticeable, and scary as all hell. Off road almost all of the creeks and popping noises were gone.
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if it was me, id put the X in the rear hatch and atleast a single bar to triangulat the door openings. thats the one thing i remember from hiigh school, triangels make great bridges, (but they dont help you spell, lol)
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