Results 1 to 14 of 14

Thread: Rust Prevention ?

  1. #1
    Trail Leader
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Fox Chapel, PA
    Posts
    291

    Rust Prevention ?

    Does anyone know of or used a product for protecting bare metal from rusting, kinda like Fast Etch, Bull Frog, or Boeshield T-9? Basically, I want to sandblast my frame to bare metal and not have to paint it and then grind off the paint prior to welding patch panels, suspension, etc. It'd be nice if the product could be removed with water or paint thinner, or even better, doesn't have to be removed to get solid welds, though unlikely. Let me know what you suggest, where I can get it, and how much it costs
    Eric

  2. #2
    check out POR-15

  3. #3
    PghOffRoad Forum Addict!
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Posts
    546
    i've used por-15 on alot of stuff and it always works. It is a bit expensive tho. Alot of people will suggest chassis saver but I have no experience with it.

  4. #4
    Less posting, more wheeling!
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Elma, NY (near Buffalo)
    Posts
    1,986
    Chassis saver is great. I had my axles sandblasted and them painted with Chassis Saver -- it's holding up great. My bumpers, which were bare metal, also had chassis saver and I haven't had to do any touch ups -- and the bumpers have been dragged over rocks and taken some solid hits. It does, however, tend to chip off of stuff that flexes (like a beefy tie rod hitting a rock).

    That said, it does NOT fit the requirement of being weldable or removable by paint thinner. It also acts as a non-removable temporary tattoo if you get it on your skin. Over time as the skin cells rub off, it will come off -- but that's the only way I've seen it come off.
    [URL="http://www.pgh-offroad.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7670"][/URL]

  5. #5
    PghOffRoad Forum Addict!
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    1,462
    head over to your local autobody body supply store and pick up some acid etch primer ..thats what you want ,you wont have to remove it and can prime and paint later ...
    vendors that did me right during my build .check them out

    [URL]http://rockstomper.com/[/URL]
    [URL]http://www.ballisticfabrication.com[/URL]
    [URL]http://www.foothillmotorsports.com[/URL] best deal on super swampers
    [URL]http://www.kore4x4customs.com/[/URL]
    [URL]http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/[/URL]
    [URL]http://polyperformance.com/[/URL]
    [URL]http://www.completeoffroad.com[/URL]

  6. #6
    Premium Supporting Member OverkillZJ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    USC, PA
    Posts
    15,707
    Rust Prevention: Move southwest.

  7. #7
    Less posting, more wheeling! Krod's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    2,349
    WD-40 and a scotch-brite pad.

    Rub it in, but be prepared to clean the hell out of the metal before you prep for paint. Works surprisingly well (if you clean it off properly) and is CHEAP.
    Last edited by Krod; 02-12-2009 at 11:49 PM.
    Women have clothes and shoes....we get welding and tools!....and the women!

  8. #8
    Trail Leader
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Fox Chapel, PA
    Posts
    291
    Quote Originally Posted by john00TJ View Post
    head over to your local autobody body supply store and pick up some acid etch primer ..thats what you want ,you wont have to remove it and can prime and paint later ...
    This looks like it might be the way to go. I'll have to check it out and see how much it costs. Hopefully it's not real expensive or I'll have to try the wd-40 and scotch brite suggestion
    Eric

  9. #9
    PghOffRoad Forum Addict!
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    1,462
    wd-40 cause adheasion problems with paint along with a list of others if not removed ..id wouldnt combine wd40 and paint ever but thats me
    vendors that did me right during my build .check them out

    [URL]http://rockstomper.com/[/URL]
    [URL]http://www.ballisticfabrication.com[/URL]
    [URL]http://www.foothillmotorsports.com[/URL] best deal on super swampers
    [URL]http://www.kore4x4customs.com/[/URL]
    [URL]http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/[/URL]
    [URL]http://polyperformance.com/[/URL]
    [URL]http://www.completeoffroad.com[/URL]

  10. #10
    PghOffRoad Forum Addict! wozz's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    1,282
    Well I ran into a similar problem with my scrambler being that I only get to work on it for a few weeks a year on break. After sandblasting the frame, I chose to shoot it with epoxy primer. Now I am slowly patching it. The primer definitely needs to be ground off before welding. Other than that I have had no problems with it so far.

    On a side note, where I had to replace body mounts I was going to spray these areas with weldable primer so I didn't have to grind it off. Unfortunately the can ran out and I would have had to order more so I didn't do this.

  11. #11
    Less posting, more wheeling! Krod's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    2,349
    Quote Originally Posted by john00TJ View Post
    wd-40 cause adheasion problems with paint along with a list of others if not removed ..id wouldnt combine wd40 and paint ever but thats me

    Read much?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krod View Post
    Rub it in, but be prepared to clean the hell out of the metal before you prep for paint. Works surprisingly well (if you clean it off properly) and is CHEAP.

    A weld through primer would be the best bet for longer term protection, but if we're talking short term and lots of coverage (entire frame), then a coating that can be removed without grinding or re-blasting is going to be a good option.
    Women have clothes and shoes....we get welding and tools!....and the women!

  12. #12
    Trail Leader
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Fox Chapel, PA
    Posts
    291
    I'm talking entire frame with long term coverage (at least 6 months) before all the welding is done and it's time to paint. Anyone know where I can get some weld through primer and how much is it a gallon?
    Eric

  13. #13
    PghOffRoad Forum Addict!
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    1,462
    Quote Originally Posted by Krod View Post
    Read much?




    A weld through primer would be the best bet for longer term protection, but if we're talking short term and lots of coverage (entire frame), then a coating that can be removed without grinding or re-blasting is going to be a good option.


    what r u talking about ..
    vendors that did me right during my build .check them out

    [URL]http://rockstomper.com/[/URL]
    [URL]http://www.ballisticfabrication.com[/URL]
    [URL]http://www.foothillmotorsports.com[/URL] best deal on super swampers
    [URL]http://www.kore4x4customs.com/[/URL]
    [URL]http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/[/URL]
    [URL]http://polyperformance.com/[/URL]
    [URL]http://www.completeoffroad.com[/URL]

  14. #14
    Trail Leader Barillms's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Steubenville, Ohio
    Posts
    427
    POR is good, but is for painting already rusted metal.
    it stands for PAINT OVER RUST.

    it's an acid pre spray.. which eats it..
    then you wash the acid away... and goop on the POR.
    It does not prevent rust... it destroys rust
    for lazy people who don't like getting pieces of wire
    wheel stuck in their cheeks.

    Anyway... you can't prevent rust.
    Your best bet is powder coat or good auto
    paint. Or Paint then bedliner over top.
    Good luck, nature is a bitch.
    Custom Jeep MJ Buggy, HP60, FF14 Bolt, 5.3L LM7, NP241 on 40s

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Rust spots on XJ? Where to look
    By 2002wranglerX in forum Other Vehicle Discussion's
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 04-15-2011, 11:38 AM
  2. Rust on frame
    By redruby in forum Fabricator's Corner
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 09-26-2010, 12:25 AM
  3. Rust
    By Ronin152 in forum General Off-Road Discussion
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 09-12-2008, 11:29 PM
  4. Rust baby rust!!!
    By yamadog257 in forum General Off-Road Discussion
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 09-18-2007, 10:32 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •